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To: be-baw

Final #Election2016 numbers

#PopularVote: #Trump: 62,972,226 #Clinton: 62,277,750

#ElectoralCollege vote #Trump 306 #Clinton 232


3 posted on 11/15/2016 2:51:41 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I think therefore im Dangerous to the liberal agenda !)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Boxer still thinks Hillary beat Trump


5 posted on 11/15/2016 2:52:44 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Is that official?


11 posted on 11/15/2016 2:54:40 PM PST by digger48
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Good! Where did you find that?


13 posted on 11/15/2016 2:55:31 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Bad numbers.


14 posted on 11/15/2016 2:55:38 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

So in other words, the vile harpy lost the popular vote, too.


29 posted on 11/15/2016 2:58:51 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Source or stop wasting people’s time. Thanks.


30 posted on 11/15/2016 2:58:53 PM PST by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

ATOMIC_PUNK wrote:

“Final #Election2016 numbers

#PopularVote: #Trump: 62,972,226 #Clinton: 62,277,750

#ElectoralCollege vote #Trump 306 #Clinton 232”

Link please !!!!!


39 posted on 11/15/2016 3:03:35 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Those numbers are WRONG. They were posted by one dubious source, and since then, quite a few people have run with them.


42 posted on 11/15/2016 3:04:17 PM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Please post link. Everyone, from aol to Politico is still claiming Trump got only 290 EVs and Hillary won the popular vote by 2M. Decision Desk won’t even acknowledge that they finished counting in Michigan.


46 posted on 11/15/2016 3:07:09 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Source?


49 posted on 11/15/2016 3:08:04 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

How’d did you get those numbers? Does it include provisional ballots of illegals?


70 posted on 11/15/2016 3:23:37 PM PST by MHT (,`)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Link?


73 posted on 11/15/2016 3:25:11 PM PST by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~WE DID IT DEPLORABLES!EraseThe0bagambiLegacy!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Source for popular vote

I ask because I want to be able to refer to it


77 posted on 11/15/2016 3:30:22 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Presidential Election Results: Donald J. Trump Wins
NYT - Up To Date Counts




No, Donald Trump is not beating Hillary Clinton in the popular vote

Donald Trump unquestionably won the 2016 presidential election, but he is trailing in the popular vote.

That might come as a surprise to people who Googled the phrase "Final Election Count" as late as 2 p.m. on Nov. 14. The first entry in Google’s news category -- above those from news links to the Washington Post and Politico -- was a Nov. 12 post (updated the following day) from a little-known site called 70news.

"Final election 2016 numbers: Trump won both popular (62.9M-62.2M) and Electoral College Votes (306-232)," the post’s headline said.

Further down the page, the site’s anonymous author wrote, "To all the liberal loonies still rioting because you claim Trump did not get the popular vote, get your meds now and prepare to be shocked because the finals results are in. Trump got 306 Electoral College vote while Hillary Clinton got 232. For #PopularVote: #Trump: 62,972,226 #Clinton: 62,277,750."

According to its Facebook page, the site launched in August and seeks to "share news that matters to you. What liberal media will try to hide, we will uncover."

Here’s a screenshot of how that particular Google search displayed the 70news post -- prominently.

But while it’s absolutely true that Trump won the Electoral College vote -- which is the only thing that matters in determining who moves into the White House on Jan. 20 -- he is not leading in the popular vote.

The most comprehensive vote-tracking analysis is published by David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. As of 2:30 p.m. on Nov. 14, according to Wasserman’s calculations, Clinton led Trump by 784,748 votes -- specifically, 61,422,098 for Clinton, 60,637,350 for Trump, and 6,691,311 for other candidates.

Other tallies showed similar results. CNN at that time showed a Clinton-over-Trump margin of 668,059, while the Associated Press had a margin of 668,483. (Different media outlets may report different numbers at a given time because of delays in obtaining and uploading new data.)

Here’s CNN’s tally by mid-day Nov. 14, showing Clinton ahead by half a percentage point.

And given the votes left to be counted, it’s almost impossible to imagine that Trump will gain back ground in the coming days.

That’s because California -- a state where Clinton is beating Trump by a 62 percent-33 percent margin -- has the most votes still to count of any state. Nearly a week after the election, CNN estimates that only 70 percent of the California vote had been counted. In addition, only 87 percent of the vote in Oregon had been counted; Clinton beat Trump 52 percent-41 percent there. And Washington state had counted only 87 percent of its vote; Clinton beat Trump there by a 55 percent-38 percent margin.

So it’s entirely plausible that Clinton could end up winning the popular vote by 1 million to 1.5 million votes -- roughly two or three times the popular-vote margin assembled by Al Gore when he lost the Electoral College, and the presidency, to George W. Bush in 2000.

By Nov. 14, the Washington Post and Business Insider both posted articles questioning why Google still had the 70news article at the top of their news category. A Google representative said the company was looking into the issue.

And on Nov. 14, 70news posted an update: "Anyone asking where I got the figures, it was from twitter posts. … If I’m wrong, I won’t hesitate to change the numbers. It’s the job of the establishment media to tell the people the final numbers when it’s out there already." (The Twitter post cited by 70News was this one.)

But as of 3 p.m. on Nov. 14, 70news still had the article up.

Our ruling

Social media was abuzz with the claim that the "final election 2016 numbers" showed that Trump had won won both the popular and Electoral College contests.

Trump certainly won the Electoral College vote, and as a result, he will become president. But he clearly trails in the popular vote. As of this writing, Clinton is ahead by nearly 800,000 votes, a margin that is likely to expand further as late returns trickle in from California, Oregon and Washington state, all of which are strong Clinton states. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.


89 posted on 11/15/2016 3:45:02 PM PST by onyx (CELEBRATE PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP'S VICTORY DONATE MONTHLY or JOIN CLUB 300!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Made up numbers


143 posted on 11/16/2016 12:54:01 PM PST by FewsOrange
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