Posted on 11/15/2016 12:45:40 PM PST by pissant
The elevation of the former Breitbart CEO to the Trump administration is cause for concern.
Let’s start with some sense: Steve Bannon is not Josef Goebbels. That is how Bannon was described recently by French cable news network La Chaîne Info (The Info Channel), and American media have taken up the comparison, particularly in light of Bannon’s appointment as the president-elect’s “chief strategist and senior counselor.”
The Huffington Post wailed representatively: “A White Nationalist Is the New White House Chief Strategist.” About Bannon’s personal attitudes, this is hyperbole. Julia Jones, Bannon’s screenwriting partner in Hollywood for nearly two decades, told the Daily Beast in August, “I never knew the ‘racist Steve’ that’s being reported now. I never heard him make any racist jokes, and his best friend was an African-American who went to [college] with him. . . . I never saw even a hint of racism.”
Others have reported the same. Ben Shapiro, who worked under Bannon at his website, Breitbart, until departing earlier this year, wrote on his own site, “I have no evidence that Bannon’s a racist or that he’s an anti-Semite.”
But under Bannon’s aegis, something ugly has taken hold of the Right.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
“our movement” doesn’t belong to you anymore. That’s what just happened. National Review types have been jettison.
Standing up for the alt-right makes it clear that you are against everything FR stands for.
Oh brother!
GFY with an inanimate object.
Was. That was a long time ago.
I’ve been a movement conservative all my life. Yes, it does belong to me — as much as it does to anyone else.
I’ve been a FReeper for almost 2 decades, I’ve worked with the Conservative Caucus, I spent many years in Young Americans for Freedom. My family helped start the Conservative Party. Don’t lecture me about conservatism.
If you believe the alt-right types to be legitimate conservatives, then you are not one. These are the Liberty Lobby types we cleaned out decades ago.
Real conservatives reject the alt-right, and yes, it is OUR movement.
The author, Ian Tuttle, graduated college in 2014. That would put him in his early twenties. He was probably about 8 yrs old when Dubya was elected in 2000. Starting high school when Obama took office.
So what we have here is a know it all with very little life experience. neverTrump is filled with these immature self appointed "conservative" concern trolls who happily imagine their own importance. He ought to shut up until he grows up.
Ian Tuttle
So give us a list of who you find to be acceptable conservatives. And while you’re at it a list of who you want to kick out of your movement.
Oops my bad!
Spewing...
National Reviews Orifice is at it again.
I tend to draw wide parameters for conservatism. Our movement is a broad one.
Those who stand on the founding principles of our country, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that nobody gets special privileges and nobody gets special disadvantages, that the law must be enforced, that the power of the government — especially of the Federal government — must be severely limited, the principles of free enterprise, strong defense, equal opportunity, individual liberty and security for that liberty; are part of the conservative movement. We may disagree on various issues, but we generally agree on principles, and as President Reagan once said, my 80 percent friend is not my 20 percent enemy.
Those who stand for white nationalism, ethnocentricity, the centrality of race, identitarianism, and the like are something other than conservatives. Those who believe that racial identity is the central defining characteristic of a person or a group are not conservatives. Those who reject the founding principles of inalienable rights and that all men are created equal are not conservatives. We may be in agreement with them on some issues, but they are not our friends, nor are they our allies. That’s why people like Willis Carto were read out of the movement half a century ago, and it’s why we need to steer clear of the alt-right today.
There is no reason to give those people a platform.
FUNR. Do they still have any readers?
Well that’s all well and good but it’s kind of like boilerplate. Give us some names so we can get a better idea of who you put in each category.
Please fill out your list a bit. We know where you stand on Steve Bannon. Trump evidently disagrees.
You have fallen victim to the leftwing view of the alt-right. Breitbart is mostly populated with hardened conservatives. Bannon, Nolte, Spiering, Kline, Pollack, etc. Up until the Michelle Fields dustup, it also included editor Ben Shapiro, who is about as middle of the road conservative as can be had.
Most, if not all the provocative BB headlines the MSM splashes in their reports are from Milo, also a conservative, but a flamboyant fag and aggressive anti-SJW. He intends to be provocative - and Breitbart lets him roll.
There are no racists on their staff. Their are no Nazi sympathizers on their staff. But because of their NATIONALIST bent (much like Trump’s) they attract not only conservatives nationalists, but also other nationalists - Birchers, Info-wars types, anti-war and white nationalists.
The white nationalists are mostly NOT the KKK type, but the Vox Day/Derbyshire/Geert Wilders type, with whom I have great respect.
What really grates the NRO crowd is the Bill Mitchell/Mike Cernovich/Paul Watson types shitstorming their sacred ground and making it clear the days of gently losing with the next RINO in line for the nomination is over.
BTW, does the left get jumpy and freak out when communists or black nationalists join their cause?
The Alternative Right, or “Alt.Right”, is a connotation which is spelled out as a kind of Internet world showing a taxonomy with the dot as a subset.
The Alt.right is a full on movement that I’d daresay most FReepers have been a part of since Obama won in 2008. We reluctantly supported McCain then BECAUSE of Sarah Palin, and barely didn’t support Romney in 2012.
Us conservatives are now truly split. The Bush faction subscribes to a philosophy of “invite the world, invade the world.”
The Trump faction rejects that, and demands that American policies support American interests first.
They’ll TRY to tell you the Alt.right includes neo-reactionaries, monarchists, nativists, populists, and even a few self-declared fascists. But that’s them smearing us.
They’re DEATHLY afraid that we will become popular.
Why don’t you answer the question instead of posting some snotty cop-out? I get the feeling I’m far more conservative that an NR supporting RINO like you. If you’re so
surprised” at the people Jim is letting “roam around FR now”, maybe you should either make a cogent argument or try some leftie site where you would feel more at home trashing white Americans.
I thought you read National Review. They mocked Trump for just about every single one of his policies. It was Rich who said we’d never build a wall. And NRO writers, with very few exceptions, are still clinging to so-called “free trade”, which is actually “supra-national entity managed trade”, much to our detriment
Holy crap. He should be shaving in another 5 years.
White Nationalist
White nationalist groups espouse white supremacist or white separatist ideologies, often focusing on the alleged inferiority of nonwhites. Groups listed in a variety of other categories - Ku Klux Klan, neo-Confederate, neo-Nazi, racist skinhead, and Christian Identity - could also be fairly described as white nationalist.
WOW that is something they made up and it is already all over social media as if it is a real thing...scary stuff!
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