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Calif. Sen. to Introduce Bill to Eliminate Electoral College
NBC Bay Area ^ | 11/15 | Jessica Rice

Posted on 11/15/2016 11:37:14 AM PST by nickcarraway

"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) is slated to introduce legislation Tuesday which would eliminate the Electoral College, so presidential elections would be decided by the popular vote.

Boxer is expected to introduce the bill when the Senate comes into session Tuesday.

This move is in response to Donald Trump's presidential victory last week. The president-elect won the presidency through the Electoral College, although Hillary Clinton is leading the popular vote by nearly a million votes, a statement from Boxer's office read.

Trump won the presidency by securing at least 306 Electoral College votes while Hillary Clinton recieved 228 with two states still left to call, according to NBC News.

"When all the ballots are counted, Hillary Clinton will have won the popular vote by a margin that could exceed two million votes, and she is on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama," Boxer said.

Trump will be the fifth president in U.S. history to win the election despite losing the popular vote.

"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

Four years ago, Trump called the Electoral College "a disaster for a democracy," in a tweet sent on Nov. 6, 2012.

Yet Tuesday morning, the president-elect sent two tweets conveying his support for the Electoral College.

"If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily," he said.

In a follow up tweet he said: "The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!"

If Boxer's amendment were to pass, it would amend the U.S. Constitution, and "would take effect when ratified by three-fourths of states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress," a statement from Boxer's office read.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: nickcarraway

Has that jackass read the 23rd Amendment? It’ll take more than a law to change it. Idiot!


101 posted on 11/15/2016 12:36:41 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave)
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To: Ken H
Good luck on getting 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the state legislatures to along with this.

Good luck getting 1/4 of the states to agree.

102 posted on 11/15/2016 12:38:04 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Don_Ret_USAF

No kidding. The US Constitution is second only to the Bible as a work of near perfection and the Electoral College is the centerpiece of the genius engendered in that document.

What an amazing concept, elect representative to cast the actual ballot for the President to even out the influence of each of the several states.

Rural America and “Joe Sixpack” finally had his voice heard loud and clear.

If it was popular vote, there would be no swing states. Candidates would campaign in 4-5 states and ignore the rest and New York and California would rule the nation.


103 posted on 11/15/2016 12:38:38 PM PST by cyclotic
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Go to www.conventionofstates.com


104 posted on 11/15/2016 12:40:30 PM PST by Wneighbor (Deplorable. And we win!)
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To: nickcarraway

You can’t do it by legislation, Barbie.


105 posted on 11/15/2016 12:42:59 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think an electoral college where every county in the US had a single vote would be a good way to go. Just my opinion.


106 posted on 11/15/2016 12:43:59 PM PST by Library Lady (When little men cast long shadows, the day is almost ended... Paul Harvey)
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To: al baby

Bwhahaha, good luck with that!!! When I think of all the time and money the idiot Dems will waste on this, it makes me very happy LOL!


107 posted on 11/15/2016 12:45:47 PM PST by RooRoobird20 (Cradle Democrat Hispanic woman, left the party in 1993 because of the Clintons)
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To: mewzilla
“...And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging...”

That is so scary.

I've known this was the open socialist agenda since the early 20th century. But to have 21 grandchildren they are trying to indoctrinate takes a lot of talking trying to correct publik skul teechin.

108 posted on 11/15/2016 12:47:28 PM PST by Wneighbor (Deplorable. And we win!)
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To: LouieFisk

Why should we be allowing Mexico to run our elections?

Sounds like a great title for my next rant/ vanity post.


109 posted on 11/15/2016 12:48:14 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: nickcarraway
The last I checked, the electoral college is specified in the Constitution (Article II, Section 1, Clause 3). It takes an amendment to change our constitution. Boxer can propose an amendment but the states need to ratify it, which will never happen. Oh ... the wisdom of our founders.

What we really need is for our Congrerss to pass law that will ensure "one legal voter - one vote". I'm all for photo-id voter registration for legal "citizen" voters and an absolute end to illegal votes. For all my Christian and conservative friends who oppose this sane measure, I ask, are you also opposed to photo-id on a driver's license?

110 posted on 11/15/2016 12:48:26 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: mmichaels1970

Looking at it again, all the active states already voted for Hillary. The other two, MI and PA are legislative pending.

I should have looked closer in the first place.


111 posted on 11/15/2016 12:49:14 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: nickcarraway
U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) is slated to introduce legislation Tuesday which would eliminate the Electoral College, so presidential elections would be decided by the popular vote.

Babs needs to check the updated tally - Trump won the Electoral and Popular Vote.

112 posted on 11/15/2016 12:50:25 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (For the First Time in Eight LONG Years I have Hope and Optimism for The Country.)
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To: windsorknot

It would also have to pass Congress with a 2/3 majority of both Houses.


113 posted on 11/15/2016 12:54:48 PM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: nickcarraway

Why does this old tramp have to keep reminding us of how stupid she is? We know, we know, Babs.


114 posted on 11/15/2016 1:00:20 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: nickcarraway

Why does this old tramp have to keep reminding us of how stupid she is? We know, we know, Babs.


115 posted on 11/15/2016 1:00:45 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: nickcarraway
"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement
The POTUS is elected by the states:
Article II Section 1:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
You might as well complain that a losing candidate in California got more votes for senator than a winning candidate in Wyoming did.

116 posted on 11/15/2016 1:00:50 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: nickcarraway
We're not a "democracy". We're a constitutional representative republic. The commie left hates that.
117 posted on 11/15/2016 1:13:05 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: nickcarraway
I'm personally offended that voters in Texas have no say in who is elected to the U.S. Senate from Kalifornia. We should just elect the Senators with nationwide voting and the 100 candidates with the most votes would then serve.

Actually, this approach might well get rid of some of the crazier members of the Senate. Would a basically pro-gun national electorate choose Chuck Schumer or Diane Feinstein? I don't think so.

Perhaps we could leave the present system in place but follow up with a nationwide election requiring 50% approval to seat any Senator. This might work.

If I recall correctly, both the House and Senate have the power to remove members. What a hoot it would be if the Second Amendment became so important to Americans that no anti-gunner would be tolerated by either the House or Senate. An anti-gun President would face immediate impeachment if somehow mistakenly elected.

118 posted on 11/15/2016 1:21:50 PM PST by William Tell
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To: mmichaels1970

“Nothing could be more unconstitutional...unless Chief Justice Roberts finds some way to determine that this is actually a “tax”.”


The article was poorly written, but this sentence near the end makes clear that what Boxer introduced was a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Electoral College, which would be horrible for our republican form of government and will not be adopted by 2/3 of each house, but certainly eliminating the Electoral College via a constitutional amendment would not be unconstitutional:

“If Boxer’s amendment were to pass, it would amend the U.S. Constitution, and “would take effect when ratified by three-fourths of states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress,” a statement from Boxer’s office read.”


119 posted on 11/15/2016 1:38:19 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: LouieFisk
Recent numbers:

National popular vote:

61,460,437 HRC
60,682,969 DJT

Difference: HRC 777,468+

California popular vote:

6,000,586 HRC
3,211,386 DJT

Difference: HRC 2,789,200+

Take California out of the equation: DJT 2,011,732+

The Founders were brilliant: the Electoral College saves the rest of the country from the insanity of the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

I would just love to some analysis of the 6M+ plus who voted for Her Heinous in CA: wouldn't be surprised if a large % of them are illegal aliens.

120 posted on 11/15/2016 1:54:00 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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