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To: tired&retired
One cannot measure 'consciousness'. If otherwise, it would be possible to make robots have 'understanding' and therefore imbue them with a 'soul', thereby completing and enabling human fleshly matter to enter the godhead which is impossible because of Satan's death sentence to the flesh.

Alternatively and hypothetically, a computer given a 'soul' would replicate its information from one memory device to a surviving one (because matter is temporal and decays) but it would need to transfer its 'understanding' (i.e. its 'soul') which is incomplete. However, information is infinite (or assume otherwise and follow the logical analysis to its unavoidable contradiction) and therefore the transference of consciousness is never complete. Case closed.

Ergo, God exists, God is light.

Reducing consciousness to computation renders it either finite and confined inside the realm of computers (impossible; left as an exercise) or countable in which case it is always incomplete and therefore never transferable. Can consciousness be divided and exist without parts of itself? Of course not. But can it be assembled?

Unless ALL parts of consciousness are salvageable, regenerate (reborn), or otherwise collectible by a 'Messiah' particle that by force of 'creation' (= Alpha and Omega, God is both infinite and a singularity, never confined to the measurable in mass, time or space; never reduced, irreducible) overcomes the jealous 'Satan' particle which seeks to destroy any part of consciousness, no matter how small, then consciousness cannot exist, ergo God is dead, therefore we are dead. Who wins this game? The Creator or the Destroyer? It must be the Creator because of infinity, e.g. George Cantor's Dust. Infinity can't even be consumed by infinity.

The long and short of it is that we are able to 'reduce' a great many things to mathematics, sometimes even catching a glimmer of 'truth' (THE Truth) but our complete understanding is never attainable unless we are one with God, and God is not a fudge factor. How can a fudge factor be infinite? Replace, refine a fudge factor and there will still be a need for a new fudge factor ad infinitum, ad insanitarium (see Cantor sets, Cantor Dust).

So where does all this leave us? It leaves us in need of new forms of entertainment, needing new shiny objects. Verlinde's new game is definitely more intriguing than a NY Times Sunday crossword puzzle. It may even lead to improving our lives by a thousand-fold. Ok great! Now we get to live to 10,000 years of age and travel a good part of the galaxy. Then what? There will always be a Hillary Clinton lurking around the bend, or something worse.

We do it because we care for each other and our children, no other reason except that we are curious apes with a flint of consciousness. God is Love.

Where's our roadmap God? Where's our starmap? C'mon Buddy, we're tired of waiting! We want to hang out with you!

If my angle is impalpable, then watch physicist Sir Roger Penrose try to explain it and pay attention to his mention of the greatest philosopher of the 20th Century and Einstein's best friend and mentor, Kurt Gödel


Kurt Gödel

Sir Roger here:
Sir Roger Penrose On Consciousness

43 posted on 11/14/2016 6:24:56 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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To: Hostage

“One cannot measure ‘consciousness’. If otherwise, it would be possible to make robots have ‘understanding’ and therefore imbue them with a ‘soul’, thereby completing and enabling human fleshly matter to enter the godhead which is impossible because of Satan’s death sentence to the flesh.”

When one is standing in the trenches asleep as we are while in this physical body, what you say is very true. When we allow our consciousness to grow to higher frequencies, what you say is not true. For example, in demonstrating why Jesus taught what He did, I demonstrate in front of groups that our thoughts and stored memories of our life experiences are physical tangible objects by reading people’s souls in detail. Their thoughts and stored memories are physical to my perceptions. (This is why Jesus spoke of the weeds being planted here while we were asleep in Matthew 13.)

I even walk back several feet from a person and knock them off their feet by touching these stored memories in their souls. When you are One with Jesus your perception of reality changes.

Robots can not have a soul as they can only imitate the logical aspect of consciousness and not the feminine emotional component. Narcissists who deny their feminine aspect of consciousness including compassion and empathy also imitate the robotic pattern of consciousness.

Satan can have the flesh, it is the soul that is important.

“God is light.” Yes, God is Light. So is Jesus. When I go deep in meditation through various levels of consciousness, I always perceive the level of consciousness above which I exist as “Light.” Consciousness functions very similar to atomic physics in that just as Neals Bohr discovered that an electron going from an outer orbital to an inner orbital must give off light, so must consciousness coming from a higher level to a lower level.

I see the Holy Spirit as a “Liquid Light” that is brighter than the human soul. I see the Light from Heaven as far brighter when the portal opens up for someone to cross over or enter as they leave their physical bodies. There are many levels of Light, all of which exist within God and are of God.

I need to run as I have much work to do, but will finish this comment later.

There are no such things as miracles, they are just science that we do not currently understand.

The purpose of science is to understand how God works.

God is in control.


51 posted on 11/14/2016 8:30:43 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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