Posted on 11/13/2016 6:39:01 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Republican President-elect Donald Trump said hes fine with same-sex marriage as the law of the land, calling the issue "settled" by the Supreme Court.
The comments in his first television interview since winning the presidency sharply contrast with his partys orthodoxy, his running mates longtime position and comments the New York Republican made during the primary.
Its law, he said in an interview with CBS 60 Minutes that aired Sunday. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean its done.
These cases have gone to the Supreme Court. Theyve been settled. And Im Im fine with that, he added.
The Republican Partys official platform, ratified by the party in July, opposes same-sex marriage, condemns the Supreme Courts rulings and supports proposed religious freedom legislation that critics say would allow businesses to deny services to gay people.
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This is not an issue?
As for now, the Gay Agenda has far too much power to confront without spending huge amounts of political capitol.
Sixteen out of the last twenty four years were under the control of radical Clinton and Obama Administrations so a huge fraction of Federal Judges are Clinton and Obama appointees.
A judge appointed at age 40 by GHW Bush in 1991 is now past 65 years of age. It's only by Gods Grace that Obama only appointed two Supreme Court Justices
I think Trump's position is that this is a state issue and let each state figure it out for themselves.
Let the Republican dominated states fight it out for the next few years while conservative judges replace the liberals on the Supreme Court.
Perhaps then the country can make some headway but for now, barring some huge change in public opinion, it's a losing fight.
No, it is not. And it’s Trump’s Supreme Court justices who are going to overturn it.
Right?
You were right. He, in January, was talking about overturning it. Now he says he’s fine with it. Libs jubilant on Twitter and Reddit.
Ultimately, as long as he puts conservative justices on the Supreme Court, that’s what is important.
People are saying he must protect religious freedom, and I agree, but with gay marriage legalized, I see the courts using that to say bakers, florists, etc. can’t discriminate if it violates their moral beliefs to do a gay wedding.
Warren. Brennan. Kennedy. Roberts.
Clintoonie’s pimps in the far left national “media” are trying to instigate a bunch of BS. They’re hoping for some “buyer’s remorse” and “voter guilt.” Sorry, I’m not buying their commie bull****.
I’ve given that some thought too. That’s why Trump should do some type of psychological evaluation for each prospect SCOTUS candidate for who would be the best not to get sucked into the DC cultural swamp or who is not compromised.
Exactly... That’s why i say that Trump is wise not to push this yet. Wait until he knows the SCOTUS is leaning the RIGHT way.
Trump was specifically asked the homosexual “marriage” question during the primaries and said his personal view was marriage is the union of one man and one woman. He went on to say he would honor the SCOTUS ruling. The 60 minutes leftist was trying to get Trump to say something the media could pound him over the head with. Same thing on the abortion question. Trump knows full well if he can get a couple more constitutions on the court that homo “marriage” and the right of a woman to murder her child will eventually fall. He’s right.
Only possible relief is a constitutional amendment, and that would be out of Trump’s hands. He’s fine with it, because he doesn’t want to deal with it, and he doesn’t have to. His plate is full. Most he’d be required to do is cheerlead or endorse the amendment drive.
As he said:
"Though there was increased social discipline during the
Second World War and, perhaps even more, during the Great
Depression, we may safely drop the last two items on that
list as, to say the least, social policies lacking broad
public support.
Perhaps the most promising development in our time is the
rise of an energetic, optomistic, and politically
sophisticated religious conservatism. . . . Because it is a
grass roots movement, the new religious conservatism can
alter the culture both by electing local officials and
school boards (which have greater effects on culture than
do national politicians), and by setting a moral tone in
opposition to today's(1996) liberal relativism."
["Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
Regan Books/HarperCollins Publishers, New York (1996) p. 336]
Remembering that this was penned no later than twenty years ago, and seeing the futility of the Tea Party movement alone, we can cling to the slim hope that this cliff-hanger Trump phenomenon may offer some footing for pushing back the liberalism radiating from our influential mediaplex as well as denominational church pulpits (hence schools, universities, and county boards) if true conservatives live long enough and push hard enough to displace the affections of our grandchildren from popular worldly globalistic culture back into a deep-rooted allegiance first to family, and after that permitting only reliable leaders to be seated, overseeing religious and policy-making in the community.
Now, I've said enough, and maybe even too much to be heard and grasped. I do one thing. I hold myself out as a discipler who can provide a systematic method to bring truly regenerated spiritual babes to maturity such that they can overcome the wicked influences surrounding us in a last-ditch, mutual-assistance, Fort-Apache-type final fortress of Bible-and-gun clingers.
Pray for all of us who are thus committed, and pass the ammunition figuratively--and also real if necessary.
You will note that Judge Bork held out no hope that societal change back to conservative values would be accomplished through appointment of sympathetic jurists.
The prompting must come from the force of coherent, durable family structures.
To this end, the old-time fiery preaching of decency and morality offers the greatest attack on the inroads of the figurative festering Sodom-and-Gomorrah-minded subculture that has been successfully gnawing at both root and leaf of the pioneering spirit needed to conquer future frontiers, physical and spiritual.
That toothpaste ain’t going back in the tube - many more important things to worry about.
That's not the same as the marriage issue. That's a religious liberty issue. Trump has stated he will defend religious liberty.
Then go rescind your vote & hang out at rightscoop with the rest of the never-trumpers, k?
Stahl tried to trap Trump with this question & Trump did the RIGHT thing with his answer. He didn’t change his mind on the issue. Trump’s not going to pull the trigger when the MSM points a gun at his head.
The MSM & never-trumpers still take everything Trump says literally. After losing horribly you’d think they’d have learned by now this is why their view was rejected.
Thank you, but I’ll stay with the social and constitutional conservatives, without whose votes Trump could not have been elected.
Trump’s response to the trap Stahl set for him was brilliant. Sorry you can’t see that.
Finally we have a man elected who understands how the system works. If the people want the law changed, then their Congress can change it. At that point, Trump will make his determination.
Until then, Trump is not going to worry about the law. He will leave that up to his AG and SCOTUS.
That is correct. No matter who is President its basically a fact that opposition to gay marriage is going nowhere politically in the USA anytime as far as the eye can see.
There is no doubt that Trump said a while back that Scotus made a decision and settled the issue.
First, there is a legal and a vernacular meaning of ‘settled’. If I say, “It’s settled, we’re going to Gatlinburg next year to see the fall colors.”, that is the vernacular meaning of something having been agreed upon or decided up. The truth is that we could have unexpected bills and change our mind next summer.
The legal definition of “settled law” is law that has been in place so long or so often unsuccessfully challenged that “settled” becomes a synonym for undeniable, permanent.
Trump is not a lawyer. Does not speak like a lawyer and doesn’t even pretend to be a lawyer.
He was speaking in the common language and saying that Scotus had made a decision. So, even for me, the issue of “same sex marriage” has been decided by Scotus, and I don’t see any move afoot that will soon overturn it. They settled it for the time being.
Nor will a new conservative replacement for Scalia make any difference. The fifth vote for it was the so-called libertarian/conservative justice, Anthony Kennedy. Kennedy is still there, and he’s not changed his mind
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