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Even physicists are 'afraid' of mathematics
ScienceDaily ^ | November 11, 2016 | University of Exeter

Posted on 11/13/2016 7:25:21 AM PST by LouieFisk

Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in advanced mathematics, new research suggests.

The study, published in the New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention to theories that are crammed with mathematical details.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: idiots; lazy; math; physics
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To: LouieFisk

I suspect this based on the facts that hard math doesn’t jive with their liberal interpretation of physics. The model that global warming was based on was intentionally doctored data that math would not support!!


41 posted on 11/13/2016 8:16:01 AM PST by ontap
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To: grey_whiskers

One of my favorite all time books.

Fermat’s Enigma by Simon Signh

Free PDF avail on line

A surprisingly easy read and description on the evolution of math.
And the solving of A cubed + B cubed = C cubed (no numbers exist to solve this ratio)

The book leaves you with the sense that math is art


42 posted on 11/13/2016 8:16:34 AM PST by jcon40
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To: kiryandil

Today’s teachers probably couldn’t pass an 8th grade (primary school) exit exam from1950. Or get through a McGuffy reader from 1930.

Snowflakes, creating more snowflakes. Unlike our past:

http://www.rense.com/general75/pass.htm

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3744163

http://www.barefootsworld.net/1895finalexam.html


43 posted on 11/13/2016 8:16:58 AM PST by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: LouieFisk
Math is hard.

Are there any participation trophies available? Shouldn't there be adjustments allowed for the curve?

44 posted on 11/13/2016 8:17:20 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: apostoli

“Allowed to find ‘my way’ thru the maze of the ‘forced’ learning years and was fortunate to have those few superb teachers along the path that made a difference that is now inculcated into me.”
==
I never took any advanced math classes in high school (alg, trig, geom, calc,etc.), it wasn’t until (years later) I became interested in physics that I got into it and then it seemed to come relatively easy. So, needing it for an individual interest is also a good motivator.


45 posted on 11/13/2016 8:19:24 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: ontap

“The model that global warming was based on was intentionally doctored data that math would not support!!”

Actually, the mathematical formulas weren’t the problem at IPCC, it was the DATA they were forcing into those formulae.

There were using doctored data by changing some numbers AND by not using data that would have discredited their desired political results.

But to your bigger point, hell they can’t tell me the weather in a week exactly, so how the HELL do they think they are going to tell me about drowning if i live in Florida?

Climate Change, real happens all the time, over a LONG period. Global Warming (associated with human actions) filling the oceans in a few decades, poppycock.


46 posted on 11/13/2016 8:21:38 AM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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To: Reily

What I recall is that his abilities were relatively weak compared to other physicists. Compared to the rest of the population they would be great.


47 posted on 11/13/2016 8:22:57 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: polymuser

“Today’s teachers probably couldn’t pass an 8th grade (primary school) exit exam from1950. Or get through a McGuffy reader from 1930.”
==
Yup. My parents were way smarter than I’ll ever be.
Don’t even get me started on kids not learning cursive! I still remember those letter-practice cards sitting all along on top of the blackboards.


48 posted on 11/13/2016 8:23:30 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: SES1066

The phrase, often used by politicians and the innumerate press, “All we have to do is just bend the curve...” while point to a PowerPoint graph?”

Always gets guffaws from me.

;>)


49 posted on 11/13/2016 8:23:33 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: jcon40

Like it!

Others to try for ‘expanding the conceptual mind’:

“Flatland” by Edwin Abbott (1884)
Michu Kaku’s “Parallel Worlds” and “Hyperspace”


50 posted on 11/13/2016 8:26:37 AM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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To: SES1066

“Shouldn’t there be adjustments allowed for the curve?”

i hated those ‘curves’ since i was ‘setting’ them in high school... lotz of lazy’s back then!


51 posted on 11/13/2016 8:29:35 AM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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To: LouieFisk

There is the fact that physicists are interested in understanding the world, not doing abstract mathematics. Einstein mastered calculus by the time he was 15, and would probably be considered a math wiz by most, but said that in college he was uninterested in higher mathematics because he could not see its usefulness to a theoretical physicist. (A job description that barely even existed when he graduated.)

Certainly none of Einstein’s early papers, through his wonder year of 1905, including Special Relativity, required deep mathematical skill or insight. General Relativity, a theory perfected in 1914, did require Einstein to teach himself four dimensional non-Euclidean geometry, a truly arcane and difficult field.

Einstein was slow to accept the consequences of the advances in theoretical physics he unleashed, including quantum uncertainty, and the expansion of the universe.


52 posted on 11/13/2016 8:29:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans!)
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To: Reily; Moonman62
Few knew the jocular side of Albert Einstein.

Archivists remain puzzled by the expression he once wrote...

"Zo, can any one provide the last term? LO, what?

Bueller?

53 posted on 11/13/2016 8:32:27 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: P.O.E.


54 posted on 11/13/2016 8:33:34 AM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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To: LouieFisk

Even Einstein had a mathematician to work out and derive his famous formula showing the conversion of energy and mass.


55 posted on 11/13/2016 8:40:28 AM PST by odawg
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To: LouieFisk

LouieFisk, thanks for posting this. It’s refreshing now and then to read a thread that is apolitical.


56 posted on 11/13/2016 8:42:55 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (The UN is an anti-American cabal dominated by tin-pot dictators.)
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To: RinaseaofDs


57 posted on 11/13/2016 8:43:02 AM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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To: apostoli

That’s what I said!


58 posted on 11/13/2016 8:48:09 AM PST by ontap
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To: apostoli

“Wholeness and the Implicate Order” by David Bohm...


59 posted on 11/13/2016 8:57:43 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: ontap

You said it so well, thought i’d repeat it!


60 posted on 11/13/2016 9:05:11 AM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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