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To: maggief

Whether he deserves to go is not important at this time. Starting a leadership challenge at this point would cause a delay in Trump’s agenda. Time is at a premium at the beginning of a President’s term.

As long as he is willing to push Trumps agenda he should stay for the year. Did we learn nothing from our lessons on what happens when you overpower and remove the leaders of a a corrupt government and the chaos that can follow suit.

As long as they cooperate you secure it with their assistance while planning for their removal.

Think first then act.


39 posted on 11/11/2016 5:23:47 PM PST by MagillaX
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To: MagillaX

If Trump wants Ryan gone, he’s gone.

The election was not a mandate for Ryan.
It was a mandate for Trump.

If Ryan continues to be Speaker, it will be because of the reasons
you mentioned.

We shall see in January after the lame duck if Ryan becomes Trumps
useful idiot or is voted out. And a lot of that depends on Ryan lame duck
performance.


61 posted on 11/11/2016 5:48:59 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: MagillaX

“Time is at a premium at the beginning of a President’s term.”

Bingo. That’s why Ryan needs to go.

If not, Trump will spend his first 100 days “debating” with him.

Ryan is pro amnesty, pro TPP, pro NAFTA, against building the wall, etc. Only a fool would think that it’s a good idea for him to stay.


64 posted on 11/11/2016 5:55:31 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: MagillaX

Thanks for posting a thoughtful dissent. I still respectfully disagree with your take on this, but it *IS* worth thinking about and keeping in mind.


124 posted on 11/12/2016 7:40:59 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: MagillaX

Agree with your comment #39.

Machiavelli prescribed two ways to deal with enemy leaders after a city is taken.

Either:
1. Make them richer and more powerful than before, in return for their absolute support;
...... or,
2. Place their head on a pike in front of the city gates as warning to others.

It appears Trump is taking the first approach with Ryan.


127 posted on 11/12/2016 8:07:11 AM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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