Posted on 11/10/2016 6:27:15 AM PST by Kaslin
Al Franken cast the decisive 60th senate vote passing Obamacare and virtually everyone now agrees that his initial election in 2008 was achieved through judicially assisted electoral fraud; Clinton buddy Terry McAuliffe was almost certainly elected by felons and illegals; and my personal prediction is that historians will eventually agree that Obama lost the 2012 presidential election to Romney by about 2.5% of the legal vote.
Democracy depends on the integrity of the secret ballot process and fraud, whether mostly real and extensive or mostly imaginary and minor, cannot be accepted. Electoral reform has to find a place near the top of the new administration's priorities list.
In my pre-retirement life as an info-tech management consultant I generally used and praised products from a company called Sun MicroSystems. Sun revolutionized computing, but came under continual attack from more traditional players like IBM and Microsoft and was eventually forced (mainly, in my opinion, because they hired too many people from failed competitors and then listened to them) to sell its assets into a shelter provided by Oracle Corporation which, much to its credit, has maintained them since.
The reason this matters now is that Sun had, uniquely in its industry, the technology needed to prevent electoral fraud in the United States while dramatically reducing the cost of running elections.
The elections management process looks simple: make a list of voters, prepare the ballots, and check off each voter as they fill out and return exactly one ballot.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I read this and failed to just get into the gist of what the author is say with respect to whatever he knew about Sun Systems whatever.
I’m all for strengthening the Electoral college. It think ALL of the states should have “faithless elector” laws and punishment (jail) for those who violate the will of a true and legal vote in a particular states.
I am IN NO WAY willing to give up any part of the Electoral College in deciding the election, however. Definitely NOT decision by national popular vote. No way, no how!
The founders’ establishment of the college assures that each state in this vast and diverse union has its own regional interests and goals at least counting for something on selection of a president.
If this country goes to a popular vote then it becomes nothing more than mob rule mentality and a very small part of this vast and diverse UNION of STATES will have a say in how things are done - try LA, SF, and NYC running everything. No WAY in cowboy hell.
This election fraud business has to be tops with trade deals and immigration IMO.
Purge dead people off the roles etc. Penalties for voter fraud must be severe.
Start with mandatory photo ID requirement. Match that with the federal voter database to ensure integrity of elections. The problem is that the whole of the RAT party is dependent upon criminal voting practices to stay in office. That’s why America is in the mess she’s in.
Photo ID’s should become federal law.
It would provide physical ballot security, but also a way for voters to confirm their vote was recorded, and recorded correctly -- but without revealing their actual votes.
However, we really can't do anything about vote fraud -- because the places where it is worst are happy with the flaws, and would never voluntarily adopt more secure methods.
I think we need federal legislation that says: for federal elections (House, Senate, President), this is what you shall do. You can do whatever you want for your own elections.
It might require a Constitutional amendment. But, it needs to be done.
A lot a Democrat Senators up for reelection in 2018. Many from RED states. 2018 could ne another good year for Republicans.
Absolutely agree. As of January 2017, ballot intergrity measures must be pursued everywhere possible, vigorously.
I'd consider the entire country changing to what Maine and Nebraska do: 1 EV per Congressional District and 2 EV per state.
But, I think it would require some standardization for drawing district lines, to reduce gerrymandering.
Both would require a Constitutional amendment, because CA, NY (and TX!) would never do it voluntarily.
I’ve heard that Mexico, among other countries, has strict voter ID laws in place. Amazing to think that some less developed countries have much better voter integrity in their elections than we do.
There’s a developing liberal meme, that “Hillary won the popular vote”. But how much of that “winning”, involved the illegal alien vote, and other voter fraud? When will we see election results from Philadelphia, for example? Do they have precincts in which Trump got exactly zero votes, and more votes recorded than registered voters?
If we were able to root out voting problems such as I noted, I question if Hillary really did win the popular vote nationwide.
The 2018 Senate elections could be brutal on the Democrats.
But, it will be a mid-term referendum on Trump. Depending on what he does in the next 2 years, it could be brutal on the Republicans.
There may be more equitable ways to apportion EVs within a state, but my main contention is that I DO NOT WANT 20-25 highly populated localities in this country deciding everything for the rest of this country.
Punishment? ... Since vote fraud is treason against the true sovereigns of the American Republic, We The People, then the consequence should be what is used against treason ...
Trump has the advantage that these Dem senators up for re-election will need to vote for his policies because they will be popular and successful.
If we lose faith in the electoral process, we can no longer have faith in democracy. Anyone who is concerned about perpetuating the democratic process should be unequivocally committed to ensuring that the votes tallied accurately reflects the will of the qualified electorate.
Pursuant to that end, we need to enforce the following:
One person, one vote. Multiple voting should be a felony and grounds for disenfranchisement.
Only legal citizens are allowed to vote. We can’t decide the political landscape in other countries; by what delusion should we permit their citizens to decide ours?
Votes are immutable. A process needs to be created to guarantee that the vote you cast is the vote that gets tallied.
Violation of these principles threatens the validity of any electoral outcome, and could inspire a constitutional crisis. They must be dealt with quickly and harshly.
Just as this was our only opportunity to elect someone like Trump, this is Trumps (and our) only opportunity to fix our broken election system.
I’m equally optimistic that the system will be fixed, at least to the point that most of us will no longer be always having to factor in the fraud factor.
It’s not the secret ballot that is a threat.
It is the failure (treasonous IMO) of politicians and election officials to ensure that only a publicly identified and properly registered citizen gets a secret ballot.
NATIONAL VOTER ID!!!
None of this voting 3 or 4 or 18 times crap anymore!
VERY strict. Voter registration required in advance. Absentee ballots must be requested 6 months in advance. Thumbprint required to vote.
The corruption in third-world countries is epidemic. So, they've developed voting systems that are resistant to corruption.
The US voting system assumes that people are basically honest. In the past, we were mostly honest outside a few places controlled by political machines (Chicago, NYC, etc).
When government was smaller, there wasn't much reason to cheat. But now that government has an unlimited ability to reward the "winners", it's very cost-effective to cheat.
We need a voting system that is at least as secure as credit card payment processing -- and frankly, that's still full of loopholes.
Like a drivers license with picture, Military ID card. US Passport
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