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Your candidate got more of the popular vote? Irrelevant.
WaPoo ^ | 11-9-16 | Johnathan Adler

Posted on 11/09/2016 3:43:18 PM PST by smokingfrog

Reviewing the presidential election results, many commentators note that Donald Trump — like several previous Republican presidential candidates — prevailed in the electoral college without winning the popular vote. This is true, but it’s also irrelevant. It’s irrelevant legally, of course, because the Constitution provides for the election of a president through the electoral college. But it’s also irrelevant in terms of the democratic legitimacy of the result.

In the election concluded Tuesday, Hillary Clinton received more popular votes than Trump. This does not mean, however, that Clinton would necessarily have prevailed in an election that was determined solely by the popular vote. This is because the popular vote total is itself a product of the electoral college system. As a consequence, we do not know what the result would have been under a popular vote system, let alone whether Clinton would have prevailed.

The reason for this is because the electoral college system encourages the campaigns (and their surrogates and allies) to concentrate their efforts on swing states — those states in which the electoral votes are up for grabs — at the expense of those states in which one party or the other has no meaningful chance to prevail. The presidential campaigns make no meaningful effort to turn out votes in populous, but non-competitive states such as California, New York and Texas. There is no advantage to running up the score in a state that is solidly in one camp, nor is there much benefit in trying to drive up turnout in pursuit of a hopeless cause.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: representativegovt; republic; soreloser
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1 posted on 11/09/2016 3:43:18 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Bookmark


2 posted on 11/09/2016 3:45:02 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Tim Kreepy Klown Kaine: “She won the popular vote!”

Yeah, and I drank more beer than both Hillary and Trump last night, so I want to be President.


3 posted on 11/09/2016 3:46:17 PM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: smokingfrog

Zactly.

The Electoral College evens the playing field by apportionment.


4 posted on 11/09/2016 3:46:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: smokingfrog

Hillary’s ground game wasn’t quite what it was cracked up to be.


5 posted on 11/09/2016 3:47:36 PM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Mase

liberals forget how the Civil War happened; regionalism. If your party gets schlonged in all of rural small-town America and can only win in rich suburbs and cities (Hillary), or for that matter, gets sclonged in suburbs and cities (like Romney) you don’t deserve to rule. Trump will be a bridge between rural/exurban and suburban, and potentially city as well. Thats why the electoral college should stay.


6 posted on 11/09/2016 3:47:51 PM PST by ErikJohnsky
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To: smokingfrog

She said we are a constitutional democracy for a reason. She is going to use majority vote as a club.


7 posted on 11/09/2016 3:52:09 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: smokingfrog
It just means they stuffed the wrong ballot boxes


8 posted on 11/09/2016 3:53:13 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Henchster
Republic a country that is governed by elected representatives and by an elected leader (such as a president) rather than by a king or queen
9 posted on 11/09/2016 3:55:08 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
Irrelevant??

Irrelevant my ass!

It is relevant because it demonstrates that the founding fathers knew what they were doing when they wrote the Constitution.

They knew that some day the cities would become so large that only a few major cities would control the elections and had the wisdom and the experience with Europe to understand the dangers.

We should give thanks to the founders that we do not have Hillary for our next president.

10 posted on 11/09/2016 3:55:39 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Raycpa

How many of the Hag’s votes are ?able?


11 posted on 11/09/2016 3:59:32 PM PST by gasport (Live and Let Live)
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To: smokingfrog

What about the 60,000 felons that were allowed to vote in Virginia? What about other shenanigans that the Democrats may have perpetrated to get votes for Hillary? If she got more of the popular vote, I’ll bet they weren’t legal votes.


12 posted on 11/09/2016 4:00:30 PM PST by murron
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To: smokingfrog
But haven't you been ruled by a queen since January 20, 2009? 😉 Personally, I prefer my Queen, Elizabeth II, to your queen!
13 posted on 11/09/2016 4:01:08 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: old curmudgeon

That Document is fing amazing


14 posted on 11/09/2016 4:02:18 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: Henchster

Only because of Terry “Let the felons vote” McAuliffe


15 posted on 11/09/2016 4:02:48 PM PST by Califreak (God wins! Law will prevail!)
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To: smokingfrog

Popular vote? Which party holds more governorships, state legislative bodies and both houses and now the presidency? I’d say the morning POPULAR one.


16 posted on 11/09/2016 4:02:51 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: smokingfrog
Your candidate got more of the popular vote? Irrelevant.

Also Bullshiit.

17 posted on 11/09/2016 4:03:07 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Raycpa

Our form of government is similar to a corporation. The shareholders don’t elect the CEO. They choose the Board of Directors and the directors hire the CEO. This creates a balance of power that gives the shareholders some say so, but also helps prevent one or two rogue individuals from ruining a corporation. Of course, the shareholder can sell their stock as well if they don’t like the direction the company is taking, which is pretty much what happened yesterday.


18 posted on 11/09/2016 4:04:01 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: murron

A guy called a local talk show today, said he was one of the felons McAuliffe pardoned, and said he was so glad to be able to vote for Trump.


19 posted on 11/09/2016 4:04:17 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I try not to think about it too much.


20 posted on 11/09/2016 4:05:08 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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