No one thought McCain was going to win in 08!
Especially since he shut down his campaign to play Senator and still sided with Bush!
Romney had good poll numbers, until the infamous picture with Chris Christie with O after the hurricane.
Just because there was some hopeful people on the threads, doesn't mean most of us didn't know Obama was going to win.
That is what really happened in both 08 and 12.
This year, if I understand correctly, almost everyone has a model similar to Obama's model, that I truly think will be hard for HRC to pull off.