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1 posted on 10/26/2016 12:07:39 PM PDT by ColdOne
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What did they expect would happen ... when a whole bunch of sick people sign up for insurance that the well people don't want to pay for ... and the government doesn't reimburse the insurance company for the increased claims against the insurance?

Liberals are just too dumbass to be trusted to run anything.

32 posted on 10/26/2016 12:22:37 PM PDT by dartuser
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Nora and Charlie...Paraphrasing Nancy Bugeyes Pelosi....

You have to pass it first to see whats in it.

How’s that working out for ya’ll?


34 posted on 10/26/2016 12:24:07 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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CBS anchors are as clueless as their candidate as to the dynamics of human interaction:

Hillary Clinton

Confused As Well As Corrupt!

In the Presidential Debate, the other night (the 19th of October), Mrs. Clinton explained her approach to job creation. The recital sounded rehearsed & sloganized; but it demonstrated something very different than what she obviously intended. It would be far better described as a path to economic stagnation, than a path to economic progress!

That a woman who has been politically active, her entire adult life, among a people with the most successful history of economic achievement over their first century and a quarter, of any people on earth, under a Constitutional Government designed to protect that people from a bureaucratic pestilence, which has been the bane of most nations; that such a woman has so missed the essential point of the American achievement, is staggering in its implications.

Mrs. Clinton claimed that a Clinton Government would rebuild the "Middle Class." Was she totally unaware that the American Middle Class clearly built itself? That the American Middle Class resulted from naturally energized individuals, aspiring to achieve the good life, who risked everything to first clear a wilderness, work hard, generation to generation, to save & accumulate the attributes of the good life; with the result that by 1913--the year that a graduated income tax first became Constitutional, this Settler built Federation of newly settled States, had already surpassed every one of the great powers of Europe in industrial strength.

To "rebuild" the "Middle Class," Mrs. Clinton vowed to make the most successful Americans--those who had achieved the most--pay increased taxes; she called it "paying their 'fair' share." But it was clearly to be a tax on success--a tax to fund a raft of new programs (a cancer or pestilence of an expanded bureaucracy). She was obviously indifferent to the fact that the biggest impediment to any poor person with ambition, actually launching a small business to improve his status, is an almost incomprehensible explosion in bureaucratic regulations, most of which premised on the same flawed understanding of how people actually advance, which Mrs. Clinton displayed, on the 19th.

Americans used to learn by experience. What were the experience based lessons of what transpired from the drafting of our written Constitution in 1787, until the passage of the income tax amendment in 1913? Are they instructive or not, for what actually works for human advancement?

The Constitution prior to 1913, absolutely interdicted a tax driven war on the accumulation of individual wealth. Article I, Section 9, which Mrs. Clinton should have remembered from Law School, provided that no direct tax on individual Americans could be applied in any way but pro-capita. (That is Warren Buffet would pay the same tax--not the same percentage tax--but the same tax as Joe the Plumber. The Founders had no desire to limit individual success. They sought only to encourage it.

Under there experience based philosophy, there were almost certainly not even 1% of the bureaucratic regulations, with which Americans seeking to improve their lot, must face today. In place of today's pursuit of grievances, real or imagined, there was universal admiration for the high achievers! And the growth rate of a people freed to achieve, was the economic phenomenon of human history.

We do not pretend to know whether it was in her indoctrination by Marxist Pied Pipers in her late teens, or pure confusion in whatever she is struggling with today. But Mrs. Clinton is utterly clueless on how a dynamic economy works; as she is utterly unaware of the dynamic, interactive factors, that drive or stagnate any human aspiration or achievement. What is absolutely clear, even if one ignores her lack of a moral compass in her political dealings; the woman is absolutely unqualified to be President of the United States.

This is one more reason why we must win this election for Donald Trump.

William Flax

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36 posted on 10/26/2016 12:25:44 PM PDT by Ohioan
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"After Charlie Rose read out the report, Norah O’Donnell said, “We need a bigger understanding of why this is happening.” "


37 posted on 10/26/2016 12:26:14 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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REALITY DONE GONE AND SLAPPED THEM UPSIDE THE HEAD!...............


42 posted on 10/26/2016 12:31:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (WhereÂ’s that VIDEO the Anonymous group promised us????????????)
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1. People couldn’t get insured because they didn’t have a job, or because they had known expensive to treat illnesses.
2. Obamacare shifts the burden to pay for these two cases to the entire insurance pool, raising everyone’s rates under penalty of a fine.
3. Those without money go ahead and get insurance paid for by others through subsidies.
4. Those with pre-existing conditions go ahead and get insurance as required to cover their conditions, then drop.
5. It becomes cheaper to just pay the fine, so “regular” people start dropping out, with the intention of waiting until they have a major illness to opt back in.
6. Cascade effect, more people drop out, rates keep going up. Takers stay in, since it is still economically favorable.
7. Insurers can no longer maintain the illusion, because profitable sectors of their business cannot make up this level of losses, so they begin to drop Obamacare segments of their business and focus on profitable segements.
8. Leading to fewer choices, higher rates, and more people dropping.

But wait, didn’t we explain this BEFORE this crap was passed!!!!


44 posted on 10/26/2016 12:32:37 PM PDT by LambSlave
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Plus illegals are getting free obamacare. Just like Rep Joe said. You lie (Obama)


45 posted on 10/26/2016 12:33:12 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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No understanding how cost shifting raises prices for the rest or how mandating higher cost services increases cost.
Liberals need to be sent to basic biology to understand what biological sex is and basic economics to understand stuff like this.


46 posted on 10/26/2016 12:33:40 PM PDT by tbw2
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I’ll tell you what happened. Dems did not listen. They marched lock step and passed a bill WITHOUT READING IT!!!

Idiots...

In ain’t Obamanomics, or any such other BS. It is POOR DECISIONMAKING plain and simple. You legislate correctly or else BS like this happens.

And the middle class (remember those folks) are really feeling the pinch.

There some great ideas floating around but you did not listen.


49 posted on 10/26/2016 12:35:27 PM PDT by Clutch Martin
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Where were these folks when this was explained to them in 2008? Oh wait...


53 posted on 10/26/2016 12:42:54 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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I find it amusing when the useful idiots stand there slack jawed wondering what happened. They were warned.


54 posted on 10/26/2016 12:46:08 PM PDT by JamesP81
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WHAT HAPPENED?

What WE told you would happen!


56 posted on 10/26/2016 12:47:34 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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Seems like there are some people who believe socialized forms of government work and other people that have a basic understanding of economics and human nature.


58 posted on 10/26/2016 12:51:15 PM PDT by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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The media reporters are so insulated from the realities of life for most Americans that they seem shocked. But few Americans have a high-salaried job with great benefits, and a corporate structure that doesn't require results from their key employees.

Does anyone think Charlie Rose or Norah O'Donnell are improving their ratings?

59 posted on 10/26/2016 12:51:22 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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Is the media stupid enough to read and believe their own lies?

It never had a chance to be self-sufficient. It has been draining social security and medicare funds from the beginning and has put those funds into jeopardy. A number of major companies are bailing and there is going to be a jump in premiums, in some places as much as an estimated 125%.

And the idiot media knows this. They are running for cover by playing ignorance of the problems so they won’t look as stupid or dishonest by getting caught in their all out supporting of the libs agenda and efforts for power and money.

red


61 posted on 10/26/2016 12:54:10 PM PDT by Redwood71 (uad.)
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What? Government can't actually manage anything?

You mean the brilliant healthcare Harvard specialists and our brilliant Harvard trained President are actually incompetent?

62 posted on 10/26/2016 12:57:10 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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After Charlie Rose read out the report, Norah O’Donnell said, “We need a bigger understanding of why this is happening.”

“We sure do,” Rose said.

...

Obama lied. People died.


63 posted on 10/26/2016 12:59:40 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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“with one asking for an understanding for “why this is happening.””

Because Obama the Fraudster timed it so the biggest increases would happen as he was leaving office, so someone else could get the blame.


65 posted on 10/26/2016 1:06:54 PM PDT by Boogieman
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That 25% is bogus. It is far to low but the corrupt media has to lie for their fellow democrats.

Pennsylvania obamacare - almost double the cost!
http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/10/pennsylvania.html

For example, the lowest price silver plan available in Harrisburg region counties will cost $345 per month for a 21-year-old non-smoker. The same plan, sold by Geisinger Health Plan, cost $193 per month in 2016.

Minnesota: 59% premium increase
Arizona: 116%
Oklahoma: 76%


68 posted on 10/26/2016 1:37:06 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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These assholes need to read a nd listen to the “news.” These hikes were predicted over a year ago with corresponding explanation as to the reason why.


71 posted on 10/26/2016 1:51:34 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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