OB-GYN to Hillary Clinton: 'No Medical Situation' Requires Late-Term Abortion

Christian Post ^ | October 22, 2016 | Samuel Smith

[NYer]

FULL TITLE: OB-GYN to Hillary Clinton: 'No Medical Situation' Requires Late-Term Abortion, C-Section Delivery Is Safer

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Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton addresses the Planned Parenthood Action Fund in Washington, June 10, 2016.

In response to Hillary Clinton's defense of partial-birth and late-term abortions at Wednesday night's debate, a California obstetrician-gynecologist has reportedly taken to Facebook to decry the claim that third-trimester abortion is necessary to help save the life of the mother.

The Democratic presidential nominee defended her opposition to bans on late-term and partial-birth abortions by arguing that there are cases in which mothers and families are forced to make "the most heartbreaking, painful decisions" because they get news that the woman's health may be in jeopardy.

As Clinton effectively supports a woman's right to abort up until birth, she has defended her opposition to 20-week late-term abortion bans by saying that bans should only be put in place at the "very end" of the third trimester and should allow for health of the mother exceptions.

After Clinton's remarks Wednesday night, Dr. Lawrence Koning reportedly responded to Clinton's claims in a Facebook post, where he explained that there is "no medical" situation that requires aborting a child.

Koning's Facebook post was reported by Steve Schultz, the founder of of the websites Breaking Christian News and The Elijah List.

According to Schultz, he and Koning graduated together in 1973. When Schultz saw Koning's post on his personal Facebook page, he asked if he could publish the quote online, to which Koning is quoted as responding, "Do it!"

"As an ob/gyn physician for 31 years there is no medical situation that requires aborting / killing the baby in the third trimester to 'save the mother's life,'" Koning reportedly wrote. "Just deliver the baby by c/section and the baby has 95+% survival with readily available NICU care even at 28 weeks. C/section is quicker and safer than partial birth abortion for the mother."

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The Christian Post reached out to Koning's office to confirm that he posted the aforementioned comment on his Facebook. However, no response was given before press time.

According to the Charlotte Lozier Institute, the United States is one of seven developed countries where it is legal for elective abortions to occur past 20 weeks of gestation, putting it in the same company as countries like China, North Korea and Vietnam.

Last August, world renowned pediatric neurosurgeon and former presidential candidate Ben Carson asserted that the argument that abortion is used to save a mother's life is "spurious," given the medical technology available today.

"I think when it comes to the case of the life of the mother, you have to look at the individual situation, recognize that's largely a spurious argument," Carson explained on "CBS This Morning." "Because we have advanced so much in medicine these days, that situation rarely occurs."

Also during the debate on Wednesday, Republican nominee Donald Trump claimed that Clinton supported aborting babies in the ninth month of pregnancy and added that she supports ripping babies out of the womb.

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Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks as Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Hillary Clinton (R) listens during their presidential town hall debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, U.S., October 9, 2016.

In response, another obstetrician gynecologist named Dr. Jen Gunter penned an op-ed published by Vox in which she argued that late-term abortions are extremely rare and that there are no nine month abortions.

While the Center for Disease Control finds that late-term abortions (abortions past 20 weeks) account for only 1.3 percent of the total abortions in America, Gunter states that most late-term abortions in cases where the mother's health is in jeopardy occur before the 24-week mark.

"After 24 weeks, if a pregnant person is sick enough that she needs to deliver for her health, obstetricians either induce labor or perform a C-section, and the baby is attended by the neonatal intensive care unit," Gunter, the author of the book The Preemie Primer, wrote

"Trump would apparently have you believe, and perhaps he believes himself, that in these situations doctors do a delivery and then commit infanticide," Gunter continued. "Health of the mother abortions absolutely do happen — ruptured membranes with an infection or deteriorating heart disease, for example — but they happen before 24 weeks. No OB-GYN is doing third-trimester abortions for the health of the mother. We simply just practice obstetrics and deliver the baby by the most appropriate method."

However, FactCheck.org points out that late-term abortions are not exclusively used in cases with mothers with health risks, pointing to a 2013 study published in the pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute's peer-reviewed journal, "Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health."

According to the study, "[i]n many ways, women who had later abortions were similar to those who obtained first-trimester procedures."

[lacrew]

Different states have different laws. Here in Kansas there is a strong ‘health of the mother’ clause. And George Tiller interpreted that to mean psychological health...so Kansas became an wbortion Mecca, with people coming in from all over the country to make him rich, in exchange for tearing up their well formed babies. He was killed...now another doctor has taken over the practice. This doctor operates like a ‘circuit court’ and flies around the country to clinics in states with lax laws...a week doing late term abortions in state a....next week in state b. Why? Its apparently really hard to find a doctor willing to do it.

[metmom]

Ectopic pregnancies are a whole different matter.

[lacrew]

My twin nephews were born at 23 weeks. They are 5 years old now, and healthy. I want to throw up when considering what happens to babies much later than 23 weeks.

BTW, the NHS in Britain has a cutoff of 22 weeks. A baby born earlier than that will get no medical care and be left to die. Sort of a socialized medicine death panel on the front end of life.

[shhrubbery!]

the Center for Disease Control finds that late-term abortions (abortions past 20 weeks) account for only 1.3 percent of the total abortions in America

Phony stat, but for the sake of argument let's do the math:

There are roughly 700,000 abortions in the US reported per year.
1.3% x 700,000 = 9100 late-term abortions per year.

So even using the establishment's low-ball numbers, there are almost 10,000 babies sliced to pieces in late term abortions in this country, every year.

Some years ago the abortion industry (along with Senators Barbara Boxer, Hillary Clinton et al) proclaimed that late term abortions were "exceedingly rare."

Then a courageous reporter for the Bergen Record (surprisingly) reported that one so-called "clinic" abortuary in Englewood, NJ, performed 1500 partial birth abortions per year. The "clinic" abortuary made no bones about it ... so to speak... admitting that a "minuscule" number of late abortions committed there were done for "health reasons."

[Syncro]

+1

[muggs]

I can understand that too but like you said ectopic pregnancies don’t go beyond 10 weeks and even then sometimes you can take a “wait and see”under medical care because frequently the mother will miscarry the baby.

[Jane Long]

KILLary is such a nasty, evil woman.

[holden]

HF

[Thibodeaux]

Human history is the record of the baby being worth more than the mother. Hillary insists on being progressive and trashing all of human history

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I can understand ectopic pregnancies though, but even those are really early on.

Those are in the first couple of months and are generally not considered abortions morally.

That is because there is currently no way to save the baby, you can only save the mother.

At some point we will have the technology to remove the baby and implant him in the womb where he belongs and many women will be saved the heart break that brings.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Human history is the record of the baby being worth more than the mother.

Not quite accurate. Sometimes when the mother died in childbirth it was customary to bury the living baby with her if there was not another woman in the group who was willing or able to wet nurse.

This would usually happen to a fall or winter baby. The milk animals had dried up, food was rationed and producing enough milk for two babies is quite a strain on the wet nurse.

The baby is a future asset but a current drain, the mother is a current asset. So depending on the situation sometimes the mother was valued more then the baby.

[Kf90]

I myself have gone through a false pregnancy. a molar pregnancy specifically, I had two options. Wait out the miscarriage naturally or a d and c procedure. I am very very pro life and struggled to decide what to do. There was never a baby, just a mass that grew as tho it were one. I chose to go through with the procedure... Anyone else catch the fact that Hillary talked one min about killing these children but the next talked about saving the toddlers?? Guess it’s too late to commit murder after their born eh?

[MHGinTN]

Japanese researchers were keeping goat fetuses alive in artificial wombs for seventeen weeks, to term ... sixteen years ago!

[metmom]

Yes, she’s a bleeding heart when it comes to gun control but God help you if you are pre-born in her world.

Course, then there’s that trail of dead bodies that follow her and her husband.

I’m sorry to hear about your loss. I’m heard about that condition and known a few women who’ve had it also.

[Kf90]

I do appreciate it your condolences, I do pray this woman is out of the picture soon!!