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According to Sharyl Attkinsson this poll sampled 18.9% more dems than republicans. Last I hear dems and repubs were more like even. Does that mean than if this poll reflected reality that Trump would be u 9%?

Here is what Sharyl said in her latest tweets:

"Just for curiosity sake since most polls iview more Dems, wd be interesting to see results of poll that iviews 18% more Repub.

NBC/WSJ interviewed 440 who identify as Dems, 370 Repubs. So 70 (18.9%) more Dems. HC is ahead in this sample by 10 percentage pts."

How can they sample 18.9% more democrats and make this poll credible?

1 posted on 10/16/2016 10:09:12 AM PDT by GilGil
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Here are the internals of the poll.

http://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/16991NBCWSJMiddleOctoberPoll.pdf


2 posted on 10/16/2016 10:10:09 AM PDT by GilGil
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What the heck??

Hillary up by double digits, in a poll conducted entirely after the 2nd debate?

After the 2nd debate in which even liberal media talking heads said that Trump performed very well, and arguably “won” the debate??? That debate?????

But Hillary is up by double digits nationally, but Trump is ahead or within single digits in many of the battleground states??

Can all of these statements be true???


3 posted on 10/16/2016 10:11:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Real Clear Politics has the national average of the polls at just over 5 pts.


4 posted on 10/16/2016 10:12:08 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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For reference, accurate party weighting is something like D+3.

I’m no longer bothered by such obviously biased polls. It will lull Clintonites into complacency while fooling no one else.


5 posted on 10/16/2016 10:12:21 AM PDT by thoughtomator ( This election is a referendum on the Rule of Law)
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These “national polls” don’t matter. It is going to come down to the battleground states.


6 posted on 10/16/2016 10:12:39 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: GilGil

Including 18.9% was brilliant


7 posted on 10/16/2016 10:12:54 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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9 posted on 10/16/2016 10:13:16 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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Designed to weigh down the average Trump numbers when combined with other, more accurate polls.


10 posted on 10/16/2016 10:13:24 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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Notice how the +Dem sample keeps increasing, to feed the narrative?


14 posted on 10/16/2016 10:15:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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I wish folks would stop with this misleading 18% more crap... by that method, a D+5, where Dems=35%, Repub = 30%, that’s showing 17% more Dems than Repubs? Come on... there’s already plenty of misinformation out there


15 posted on 10/16/2016 10:15:37 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!l)
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How can they sample 18.9% more democrats and make this poll credible?

They don't care in the least about making the poll credible -- Since it took oversampling democrats by that much to give hillary a double-digit lead, that's what they did. Credibilty be damned; get us the poll results we want.

18 posted on 10/16/2016 10:17:31 AM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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This week’s polls’ internals...
WaPo D+8
Fox D+9
NBC D+12
Reuters D+15


19 posted on 10/16/2016 10:18:25 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)
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do you have a link to Attkinson’s statement??


21 posted on 10/16/2016 10:19:53 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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meant to make us not shocked by rigged results due to voter fraud and electronic “glitches” an and trunk loads of “found” ballots.....


24 posted on 10/16/2016 10:21:53 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( I miss Reagan !)
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Bull feces poll. I don’t believe ANY of them, as soon as the word POLL appears i tune it out.


41 posted on 10/16/2016 10:36:09 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey
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It only takes about 6% swing to win and it seems that poll says Trump has 7% over Hillary.


42 posted on 10/16/2016 10:36:38 AM PDT by CodeToad
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Wow. 18% fraud - they are really reaching out past the cemeteries now.
48 posted on 10/16/2016 10:43:21 AM PDT by Hattie
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Covered by Sundance very well.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/13/rupert-murdoch-prepares-final-assault-on-donald-trump-and-chris-wallace-debate-prep/#more-123121

So that brings us to today, when we are able to see the initial indications of how far Murdoch is going.

Unusually visible tonight on the BOR show is a fellow named Daron Shaw.

Many of you are already familiar with Shaw because we have outlined him frequently. Daron Shaw is a big GOPe party operative (TX) with deep connections to the Bush family global agenda and the BIG GOPe elements within the UniParty. In addition to being Murdoch’s Fox Pollster, Shaw was also the backbone of Rick Perry’s prior campaign for the Presidency.

Suffice to say, Shaw is part of the Bush-Murdoch-Romney-Rubio mold of Wall Street legislative items, and in full alignment with Tom Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

So Daron Shaw appears Thursday night to discuss Fox’s latest poll (which he conducted because he is “Shaw Research and Associates” – but they never tell you that part).

The poll result he provides is highlighted in the tweet below from Fox (look closely):

Oh my. It appears that Trump has been hurt by the coordinated NBC/Universal hit that took place a week ago (the trump Access Hollywood edited tapes). Remind yourself, the NBC/Universal design was to follow-up with a bad poll. This poll release dovetails nicely with that messaging.

Unfortunately, it’s fundamentally too easy to see through Daron Shaw’s attempt.

Look at the poll internals and you’ll immediately note the difference between “October 3-6”, to “NOW” is created entirely by the a shift of the sample:

Page #22 pdf Party ID

All Daron Shaw did was increase the number of Democrats and decrease the number of responding Republicans. The poll shifted by 7% toward Democrats.

The “NEW” poll of Likely voters is 45% Dem -vs- 36% Rep (9% more Dem, or D+9).

The Oct 3-6 poll of Likely voters was 41% Dem -vs- 39% Rep (2% more, or D+2).

In essence, if you factor in only a 1% gain for Hillary with a 7% increase in Democrats, the actual poll result heavily favors an improvement by Donald Trump. However, that doesn’t fit the unified (Corporate Media) narrative need.

Daron Shaw delivers the Murdoch agenda for Mr Wall Street [Hi Rupert].

However, the appearance of Daron Shaw in coordination with Fox News Vice-President Bill Sammon (circled below) in charge of the debates, and prior knowledge of Fox’s debate set-up strategy against Donald Trump…. well, now we’re getting down to brass tacks.

Don’t forget Fox’s VP of Political Content Bill Sammon’s daughter, Brooke Sammon, was Marco Rubio’s national spokesperson during his presidential bid. Remember the debate where Marco seemed to already know a few of the questions? Well….

50 posted on 10/16/2016 10:45:24 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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attn:
Bush supporters

thanks a lot for throwing the country away


55 posted on 10/16/2016 10:50:18 AM PDT by RockyTx
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October/November
Reagan Carter Anderson
40% 44% 9%
39% 45% 9%
47% 44% 8%
Actual result
51% 41% 7%


57 posted on 10/16/2016 10:51:23 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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