Posted on 10/14/2016 1:21:05 PM PDT by Kaslin
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RUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I raised a question when we learned about the woman that Trump said octopused her on the airplane. It turns out her name is Jessica Leeds. It turns out that she said that after dinner in first class, Trump raised the armrest and moved in for the octopus moves. I raised a question based on my memory traveling first class. I don't remember armrests being able to move in first class on the airplane, but I didn't know. It's been a while since I've flown first class.
So I asked people out in the audience and I got tons of responses from flight attendants from 30 years ago, 40 years ago, today confirming that armrests in first class did not move. You couldn't raise it and get out of it way like you can in coach. Well, there's a website out there called Got News, and Snerdley has verified that you can count on Got News now and then. And Got News has a story that this woman that claims Trump octopused her is making it up. Jessica Leeds.
She claims, for example, that she was flying a Braniff. Braniff was an old Texas airline in Houston and Dallas. It was a great airline. I loved flying Braniff when I was a kid. She claimed that she was flying Braniff from Dallas to New York, 1979, on a Boeing 707. When I saw that I said, "Wait a minute. I never saw Braniff fly a 707." You know, Boeing 707s have not been in service for a long time. They were so damn noisy. A Boeing 707, if one flew over you... This is the first big so-called jumbo jet.
It's the same technology as in the Boeing B-52. I mean, that's how old the 707 is. It's the same airframe, essentially, with some modifications as the B-52. Unless they've been retrofitted with new engines -- which is a very expensive thing to do -- they're not in service. Some charter operators fly them, and they're owned. Like Travolta owns one. John Travolta owns a 707 and flies it out of his home here in Florida somewhere. But they're just noisy as hell; that's why you can't fly 'em anymore. Literally, you think bombs are going off. It's uncanny.
Those of you old enough to remember will know what I'm talking about, but I didn't remember Braniff ever even flying 707s in the fleet. They may have. Every Braniff I ever saw was a Boeing 727. Well, it turns out that Braniff did not fly 707s from Dallas to New York like Jessica Leeds says she was on, and that was the flight that Trump octopused her. In fact, we've got the old yellowed schedules that you used to be able to buy as published pamphlets. Newark and New York from Dallas?
If you wanted to fly Braniff, you had to fly a Boeing 727. Now, I'm sure that Ms. Leeds would say, "Well, I don't know 707, 727. What difference does it make?" Well, it's gonna turn out to make a lot of difference. So this woman's been found; she's all over television now.
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RUSH: Here's Ann in Atlanta as we head to the phones. Great to have you. I'm glad you called.
CALLER: Hi.
RUSH: Hi!
CALLER: How are you? (giggles)
RUSH: Very well. Thank you.
CALLER: I used to be a flight attendant, from 1978 until 1990, and I was also a senior flight attendant. So I always worked the first class cabin.
RUSH: Wait just a second now. I need to do the math: 1978 to 1990, and this is 2016. So we're talking, what, 30, 28 years ago?
CALLER: Thirty, yes.
RUSH: Twenty-eight, 30 years, which is the timeframe that this woman says that Trump octopused her. Okay.
CALLER: Exactly. During that time, first class was truly first class. When you came on board the airplane, from the minute you got on board, a flight attendant was attending to your every single need when you were a passenger.
RUSH: What kind of aircraft did you fly, Ann, can you recall?
CALLER: I flew 'em all. I flew 727s, DC-9s. I flew for Eastern Airlines.
RUSH: Wait a minute!
CALLER: And --
RUSH: Wait a minute. First class on a DC-9? Did you fly configurations with first class on a DC-9?
CALLER: DC-9 had first class, yeah.
RUSH: What about 707? Did you ever fly a 707?
CALLER: I never flew the 707.
RUSH: Right, 'cause they were practically out of service then!
CALLER: Exactly. Braniff was going out of business at that time, and a lot of those flight attendants came on board with Eastern.
RUSH: Okay.
CALLER: Yeah. So, I'm very familiar with that time frame and all the airlines that were around and all the different airplanes because you had to be qualified on every single airplane when you're a flight attendant. And, oh, by the way, there was a weight restriction. (giggling) And if you went overweight, you had to leave. (giggling) So, I mean, your appearance as a flight attendant was very, very important. That's number one. Number two: The first class section of the airplane was very private.
And you closed a curtain, and that flight attendant attended... There was a first-class flight attendant that was specific to that cabin, and if it was on a flight... You said that they went from Dallas to New York. That's a long flight. And that flight attendant up there does everything. They come in the cabin, they give you a drink when you first sit down, they collect your drink, they take it away, they hang your coat up.
RUSH: Right. But what about the armrest? I'm running out of time.
CALLER: The armrest did not move.
RUSH: That's my memory, yeah.
CALLER: The armrest did not move. Like I said, I didn't fly on the 707 but my guess is that was even older than the planes that I was on for Eastern and none of those planes' arm rests moved.
RUSH: Oh, this 707 goes back to the 1950s. I mean, they were the first... It was a real luxury to fly on one when they first entered service. They were a great airplanes. They were so damn loud. But I guarantee the armrest didn't go up in the first class seats on the 707.
Look, I'm way long, folks. I gotta get out.
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“Why these women waited 10-20-30 years to come forward?”
For the same reason they did not come forward during the Republican primaries. They don’t remember anything until three weeks before the election, when there is not enough time to refute their claims and set the record straight.
Pensesaid they were releasing proof today that this is false. Where is it?
That “lady” just oozes social justice warrior on a mission.
Your post yesterday was at 10 am. The Rush show is at noon.
Your comment preceded his. Did you hear anyone else mention the armrests before you? I sure didn’t.
Rush is right on top of another two-day old story...
You can put it all together with the Clinton Media, Hillary Rotten Clinton and the Clinton Campaign.
[Because Nobody offered to Pay them to Lie before.]
Correct
That’s a new one to me, “octopusing”. I remember when I learned the term “sandwiching” when Swimmer Kennedy and another congressman, forget who, did that to a waitress at a DC restaurant.
We owned a family lumber mill business. One of the lumber brokers we worked with came from a wealthy family and Trump reminds me a great deal of him. The broker didn’t seem particularly good looking to me, but he had a sparkle with women. This was in the early 1980s... he drove a Porsche and knew how to dress. He could read women like a book. He truly could get away with just about anything with women with absolutely no complaints from any of them. And these were beautiful women.
That is the kind of thing Trump was bragging about with Billy Bush and the same type of things that I heard and witnessed with our lumber broker friend. He moved fast, but he didn’t do it with women that were not sending signals back indicating that they were receptive to his advances.
I am sure that Trump was able to read women as well as our friend. I doubt whether he made advances on any woman that wasn’t receptive. Like our friend he didn’t need to or have any desire to pursue any woman who didn’t indicate that she was interested. That is why this woman’s claims do not seem believable to me at all, along with her story not adding up in the first place.
Boeing did have some early 707s, but had gotten rid of all of them by 1980. (A Wikipedia article, for what it is worth, says they had gotten rid of all the 707s by 1975. “in 1975 Braniff had one 747, eleven DC-8s, and seventy 727s.” )
I do not recall arm rests in first or business flipping up on any plane. In fact the old coach ones were often stationary too (they could be lifted up and put on the floor).
This female’s claim is total bunk.
If you are going to accuse someone of something as big as this you had better have your ducks in a row. This woman obviously does not. Her story is falling apart.
Indeed she is
Airlines configure their seating arrangements differently. It's better to keep this to an apple-to-apple discussion.
Here's a site that has historical details on Braniff. (See: The Braniff Pages)
They have some really good detail shots of how the 727 interiors were configured, specifically, first class. (See: Braniff "727 Braniff Place")
It looks to me like the arm rests could fold up. I certainly would hope that someone from Trumps campaign has done a modicum of research so he doesn't step in it. It's one thing to have his spokesperson be wrong, but it would be bad for him to say what she did, then have the demoCraps produce these photos of the 727 interiors.
The DC-8s and 707s were similarly configured. The only real change they made was in the late 70s they changed from the psychedelic fabric to brown leather. Otherwise, the seats were the same. (See: Braniff's 727,DC-8 and 747 aircraft in "Ultra Scheme Colors" and "Halston")
Here's the DC-8 of the late 70s/early 80s:
Here's another shot of the first class 727 seating.
Which is why Trump should sue the democrat women.
At 6:17 am on 10-13, mazda77 wrote:
Nevermind the fact that armrests don’t articulate in First Class, or they didn’t when this was supposed to have happened. Those things were like a table with drink holders.
The fact is noted in every thread about that woman, Ms Leeds.
Gogo boots and miniskirts and ashtrays in the chair arms are the only things I remember of Braniff. That and the moving sidewalks at Love Field.
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