Posted on 10/09/2016 12:16:32 AM PDT by Trump20162020
It will probably be a long time before Shelby sees the inside of a courtroom. But her lawyers are already previewing her case in the media — and Shelby’s attorneys have a strange argument they’ll use in her defense.
Shelby had no idea her backup was right behind her, prepared to subdue Crutcher with a less-lethal taser, the lawyers are saying, because she was temporarily deaf due to the stress of the situation. The law enforcement community calls it “auditory exclusion.”
“She didn’t hear the gunshot, didn’t hear the sirens coming up behind her just prior to the shot,” defense lawyer Scott Wood told the Associated Press last week. Auditory exclusion is “the no. 1 perceptual distortion by people I have represented who have been involved in shootings,” he added.
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In my ccw training, I was told about this. Under high stress, your brain tunes out everything except the threat in front of you.
That this female cop was THAT stressed in this encounter, indicates she is not suited to be a cop.
I’m not saying this is a good defense, but I do understand the issue. Sportsmen tune everything out when playing. If it’s not pertaining to the play, they just don’t hear other things.
A baseball player in a stadium with 55,000 people screaming all sorts of things at them, only hear the other players or the team manager. They are focusing.
In a situation an officer deems to be potentially life threatening, I think the officer could focus so much on the potential confrontation at hand, that they could simply tune out anything else. Their life may depend on it.
I’m not making the case this is valid here or not, but I do understand it.
It may not be as far-fetched as some folks would think.
I’ve been at sporting events and yelled support for my nephews or niece, and they never heard a word I said they were so focused, and I was yelling loud enough for people hundreds of feet away to hear, while only being 20 or so feet from them.
If the officer didn’t realize back-up what there, she might have felt more exposed and vulnerable.
I’m not defending this particular woman here. I’m only saying I understand how she could tune out things around here that you wouldn’t think she could.
Maybe yes. Maybe no. We aren’t privy to what briefings she received at the beginning of her shift. Perhaps something said there tied into this case and caused her to be more apprehensive. Was there another individual who fit some of the same descriptions who was a serious threat? I don’t know.
I’ve heard a number of folks say she just really screwed up. She may have.
I am still dumbfounded at the number of people who do no follow officer’s directions. They turn their back on the officers. They return to the vehicle. They turn quickly. They seem to be playing a game. “I’ll just see if I can scare the hold carp out of this officer. If I turn my back and then turn around, that might do the trick. What a great idea...”
Folks, follow directions. Consider the cop to be a wing-nut if you like, but don’t give them an excuse.
Maybe this guy didn’t. I haven’t seen the video.
I guess "think progress" is 180 from think objectively.
not stop....but to kill...
I call it ‘selective hearing’ OR ‘peripheral hearing’.
When I copied High Speed Morse, I was able to carry on a conversation, listen to music OR tune out everything else around me.
Later in life, I had one of the first Mobile Phones in my vehicle (3000 grand for my first), a CB radio, a company radio and the AM/FM.
I tended to have them all on and would turn the volume up on whatever ‘interested’ me at the time.
Since I seldom had a passenger, the few times someone would get in everything was so loud to THEM it was ‘annoying’ but I considered it normal.
Guess part of it was due to my tinnitus and using white out methods but it is easy to ‘zonk in and out’ ...
HOWEVER, while aboard ship I could sleep through the sounds etc of NORMALACY like if I was sleeping in during the day and a scheduled drill was set off and the ‘alarm’ went off, I would normally sleep through it.
BUT
If the ‘alarm’ went off and I wasn’t expecting it my feet would be ‘on the deck’ by the time the alert was finished.
This article is so lefty and so anxious to grind the ax I can’t judge anything based on it.
I suppose the concept could be true, I think we’ve probably all turned down the radio in the car in order to see better, for example.
Cherry, officers are taught to shoot to kill because you don’t shoot at all unless it’s a life or death situation.
You shoot for the torso because it is the largest body mass. It is vitally important that early shots hit and subdue the assailant. If you miss and the guy gets a shot off, you or your partner may wind up dead. Then you carry that with you the rest of your life.
Shooting to wing an assailant or knock the gun out of their hand is a Hollywood misnomer. Think about the target area of a hand or arm, vs the chest area. It would be very difficult to hit a moving hand/arm.
The police and the military never shoot to wing or disarm. They shoot to kill, because they deem there to be a life or death situation.
Granted, in a case like this one, if you over-react, you can kill someone who wasn’t a threat.
This officer has been charged, and will stand trial. She’ll be able to make her case. The DA will try to make his.
That’s as it should be. I am sorry this guy wound up dead at the officer’s hand, if she was out of line.
It sounds like they are following a good course of action. There seems to be a pretty good reason to challenge her actions.
That’s another interesting aspect of not hearing, and in your example it’s by choice.
If you have to sleep with noise around, you learn to do it. You tune everything out and sleep. At first it isn’t easy, but you get used to it.
It will be interesting of others come up with more good examples.
Somehow, I don't think the DA's case is based on the video... Could it be, that, based on the corroborated testimony of two experienced witnesses, this cranked up trigger happy blue suit killer screwed the pooch, big time?
That she isn't being thrown to the SJW wolves, so much as being charged with an egregious and unnecessary murder, under color of law?
Just saying...
Along these lines, maybe cops should be trained that citizens might not hear or process commands being barked at them because they are under stress from cops pointing weapons at them, so they should stop escalating traffic stops into deadly situations.
“...indicates she is not suited to be a cop.”
Affirmative action hire. Doesn’t always pan out. Look at our president.
Your comments show you don’t even have a nodding acquaintance with relevant facts in this matter.
Jus’ sayin’...and don’t expect any further reply, either.
Did the cop do a bad shoot? That's what trials are for. But IMO the dude's actions gave her ample reason to be jacked up. And bad things can happen when someone pointing a gun gets jacked up.
+ 1. Your explanation is exactly right.
You a cop? I am. And I have NEVER in 25 years have been taught to “shoot to kill”. My training was to shoot to STOP the incoming threat. Shoot to stop, center of mass was the mantra drilled into me. Unless you are talking about that old hokey thing bystanders say: “why didn’t the cop wing him, shoot him in the leg or something?” That is unrealistic and always has been. Now I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m perfectly willing to let the process play out. But perhaps a little homework is in order before you post on some things.
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Thanks for the mention of that other incident.
I agree with your take on this.
I don’t understand the thinking behind non-compliance in these situations.
If it were me and a weapon was out I would be doing exactly what the officer had ordered me to do.
Once you demonstrate you won’t the officer does get jacked up. They think you’re planning something sinister. Why wouldn’t they.
Is there any other reason to shoot?
They’d be better off going for jury nullification. The cops weren’t behind her, they were beside her. They will need to argue blindness as well. Three in a row, with the 4th running around like a chicken with its head cut off to block the other dash cam.
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