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He’ll likely lose - but Trump is the final warning to elites
The Globe and Mail ^ | oct 07, 2016 | John Ibbitson

Posted on 10/07/2016 7:31:48 AM PDT by mark_interrupted

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To: mark_interrupted

A Hillary presidency,would mean riots and terrorism, economic collapse, another impeachment and possibly armed insurrection. It would take another revolution to purge the country of the tyranny Hillary would bring


141 posted on 10/07/2016 8:40:48 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I read the article - he’s NOT one of us, or at least he’s not like me.

He sees Donald Trump as “the beast”, a negative and emotional consequence of reasonable people not getting their act together.

He sees Trump’s supporters being ignorant blue collar workers who are angry but blaming the wrong people.

He calls Trump’s promise to bring jobs back and put America first “a lie”.

Worst of all, he is a concern troll spreading the unhelpful message that Trump will probably lose.

I think Trump is a breath of fresh air, and when you consider who he’s running against - who will win if Trump loses - it amazes me that people claiming to be a conservatives can look at this race and write an article naming TRUMP the beast.

The beast is Hillary Clinton (Hildabeast), and if he was one of us, he would know that.

Go Trump!!
Best Election Ever!


142 posted on 10/07/2016 8:42:05 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: mark_interrupted

We’re about a half step away from CWII.


143 posted on 10/07/2016 8:44:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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To: mark_interrupted

Trump has the votes but the Sultan of DC counts them. Some are more equal than others.


144 posted on 10/07/2016 8:48:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: Jack Black

I know leftists that just shake their heads in disbelief that Hillary could not possible lose. They claim, “NO way can Trump win!” They have that much hatred and think everyone else MUST think like they do.


145 posted on 10/07/2016 8:50:05 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ilovesarah2012
If Trump loses, it will be due to voter fraud.

Bulls**t.

For 50+ years now conservatives seethed while doing little else as the Republicans they sent to Washington stepped aside allowing Democrats to import millions of new voters.

The ability now for Democrats now to win elections fairly with even the most corrupt, criminal candidates is the entirely predictable result of this complacency. But it is easier to blame voter fraud than to look in the mirror.

146 posted on 10/07/2016 8:50:54 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: mark_interrupted

He has an inkling, the glow of an idea, but he is still a socialist Canadian and assumes that socialism will sooth the ruffled feathers if it sheds its more outlandish ramifications.


147 posted on 10/07/2016 8:52:48 AM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: carriage_hill

Manafort and Stone may not be with the campaign, but they are working behind the scenes to make sure Trump wins the Electoral votes needed. They know all the tricks.


148 posted on 10/07/2016 8:54:56 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (An unidentified enemy is safe from defeat -- Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady)
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To: CodeToad

“I know leftists that just shake their heads in disbelief that Hillary could not possible lose. They claim, “NO way can Trump win!” They have that much hatred and think everyone else MUST think like they do.”

They either think that everyone thinks like them or, more likely, think they know everything about everything. If you don’t agee with them, you are an idiot! One of the, many, great things that will happen when DJT wins will be watching all these people’s heads explode! That is going to be delicious!!!


149 posted on 10/07/2016 8:55:04 AM PDT by Batman11 ( All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslim)
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To: mark_interrupted

Warning means nothing to the globalist mafia. The only message they would take is to drive them out of power. People cannot deliver any message without pushing a Trump’s win. Otherwise, the mafia would never allow another Trump to go this far next time. This is the “last struggle”.


150 posted on 10/07/2016 8:59:27 AM PDT by Rebel2016
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To: Drew68

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/ice-officials-tell-trump-illegals-allowed-vote-thats-wont-deport-criminals/


151 posted on 10/07/2016 9:00:17 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: mark_interrupted
I'm afraid the author has scented the blowout to come and is lamenting it, truth be told. Deeper in the article John Q. Public from Peoria is still a racist, insecure, ill-educated lout, he just happens to be a strong lout.

But the author has certainly picked up on the rage. Trump is no one's "last warning", he's what comes after the last warning is airily dismissed. I enjoy metaphor as much as anyone, but he is no Antichrist, nor are his followers any lumpenproletariat angry at insufficient pandering, nor are we likely to be mollified by repackaging business as usual as some sort of political moderation.

Nor is he all that likely to lose, and what comes after that isn't going to be any apocalypse, but it may seem that way to the political and cultural elites whose excesses the author has accurately described. The real difficulty is that the ground assumption on the Left has become that the duty of government is to sculpt its society and to hell with the preferences of the individual citizens therein. And that once in power it is the duty of the government, and the unassailable right of its operators, to run roughshod over those jerks from Peoria who aren't real human beings anyway.

You can think that, but you'd best not say it, is the article's bottom line. And they have said it loudly and repeatedly. And if you act on it, you've got trouble. And they have.

152 posted on 10/07/2016 9:02:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mark_interrupted

https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/book-review-the-big-shift-why-stephen-harper-will-keep-winni?utm_term=.njyWWYwjn#.kiJJJeP7Y

This guy totally got the 2015 Canadian election wrong. Above is a review of his 2013 book.


153 posted on 10/07/2016 9:05:06 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: RoosterRedux

Sure hope so. I can’t take another Election Night Eve 11:55pm announcement from FNC declaring Hitlery to be the winner.


154 posted on 10/07/2016 9:07:28 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Keep in mind that the polls are based on the 2012 turnout model. That significantly skews the data.

This year’s turnout will not follow 2012. Dems will be down, Republicans will be up. Both, I believe by significant margins.


155 posted on 10/07/2016 9:07:29 AM PDT by jazminerose (oective)
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To: euram

The country is lost.

Even if Trump wins, and I hope to God he does, he only temporarily pauses our march towards destruction.

Only a total a complete collapse will allow for needed corrections to take place. Sadly, that collapse will be extremely painful for all, but it is coming, and sooner rather than later.


156 posted on 10/07/2016 9:08:30 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: mark_interrupted

I absolutely revile defeatism!!!! What f’ing losers!


157 posted on 10/07/2016 9:09:07 AM PDT by TruthFactor (Hang em', Hang em' High.)
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To: bray

This post and concern troll replies are what is driving me away from FR. Two days ago Pence wins the debate handily and gave Trump a boost along with many favorable polls, and now it’s back to this this cr&p. Bye


158 posted on 10/07/2016 9:11:05 AM PDT by usmom
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To: 9YearLurker

>>A Hillary presidency would overwhelm with illegals turned voters, a Trojan Horse of Muslim refugee immigration, and a Leftist packing of the Supreme Court that we’d likely never recover from.<<

All that is true; BUT it is probable only if we do nothing. Before it gets that bad, we had better be prepared to do something about it.


159 posted on 10/07/2016 9:11:16 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: jazminerose

Yup, they have polling with a 2012 turnout model

Without Obama, that model doesn’t work + TRUMP is NO lameass Romney

TRUMP has a movement like Obama’s, it’s going to be a blowout!


160 posted on 10/07/2016 9:12:56 AM PDT by KavMan
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