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To: expat_panama

I had to read the article. It’s amazing how they can bring Trump into that.

It’s all tied to marriage. When American men realized that marriage and children are a sucker bet, they didn’t need to worry about chasing the “American dream” anymore.


3 posted on 10/06/2016 4:15:03 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

Once affirmative action withstood legal challenges, men (at least white and Asian ones) knew they’d do all the work while “preferred minorities” got the money and promotions for their efforts. Having men opt out of raising families was the initial problem; at this point they can’t get them to do the work for everyone else anymore.

One silver lining to all this is that I’ve been able to slow down at work to a woman’s pace; it is like working a part-time job after the years I spent busting my hump working unpaid overtime...


9 posted on 10/06/2016 4:20:10 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Bryanw92

He couldn’t resist blaming Trump. “Reversing social regression is more difficult than causing it. One manifestation of regression, Donald Trump, is perhaps perverse evidence that some of his army of angry men are at least healthily unhappy about the loss of meaning, self-esteem and masculinity that is a consequence of chosen and protracted idleness.”


12 posted on 10/06/2016 4:26:37 AM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: Bryanw92

So men are better off single and not working than married, with a family, and working?


13 posted on 10/06/2016 4:28:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bryanw92

This article is written by an ignoramus with no clue. The jobs are going to H1b immigrants. I used to worked in technology and got replaced by Indians. The economy has never recovered and once your out of work a couple of years..you might as well have Ebola. The middle class jobs are going going gone


16 posted on 10/06/2016 4:42:17 AM PDT by ground_fog ( My God this was from today!)
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To: Bryanw92
>>When American men realized that marriage and children are a sucker bet

When American men realized were indoctrinated to be metrosexualized pink-shirt-wearing poodles who believe that marriage and children are a sucker bet

There. Fixed it for ya.



 

23 posted on 10/06/2016 5:02:15 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Bryanw92
It’s all tied to marriage. When American men realized that marriage and children are a sucker bet, they didn’t need to worry about chasing the “American dream” anymore.

See:

Written in 1986.

32 posted on 10/06/2016 5:08:37 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Bryanw92

I am sorry you have had a bad relationship or three. However, the problem is not that, as you put it, “ marriage and children are a sucker bet,” the problem is the destruction of the family and the removal of God and His saving grace from our society. If men followed God’s plan for our lives then there would be no problem.


40 posted on 10/06/2016 5:21:40 AM PDT by Xenodamus (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -TJ)
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To: Bryanw92

Modern marriage is a trap for men, which is why fewer men are bothering. And with no wife and kids to feed, it’s relatively inexpensive to live a comfortable life outside of high stress, low quality of life work environments.

And frankly if you are a white male working for a large company, you will hit the diversity ceiling soon enough, so better be prepared.


45 posted on 10/06/2016 5:32:27 AM PDT by AC86UT89
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To: Bryanw92
It’s all tied to marriage. When American men realized that marriage and children are a sucker bet, they didn’t need to worry about chasing the “American dream” anymore.

Feminists have spent decades trying to rip down "the Patriarchy", with most not really realizing what that would do. Note that "patriarchy" does not mean "rule by men", it means "rule by fathers".

Men would strive to become educated in order to become big earners. They would strive to become big earners in order to be able to attract a good woman, and be able to raise a family, and become fathers. This desire motivated men to go work the uncomfortable, physically demanding, and dangerous jobs that need to get done in order to keep civilization running.

In an environment where getting married is for suckers, where men can be stripped of their assets in divorce court, and their children alienated from them by bitter ex-wives, increasing numbers of men are opting out.

A man doesn't need a high paying job to support just himself. He doesn't need to be able to make a mortgage on a big house. If he's just spending for himself, he can get by on occasional work, and have lots of leisure time to go to the gym, pick up girls, play video games, or whatever he desires for personal fulfillment in the post-marriage environment.

54 posted on 10/06/2016 5:56:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Bryanw92

I had to read the article. It’s amazing how they can bring Trump into that.


It’s George Will. He’s anti-Trump.


60 posted on 10/06/2016 6:04:13 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: Bryanw92

The problem is there aren’t many women left worth putting in the work for. Try finding one who isn’t a fat lazy slob, a left-wing wack job and/or a feminist man-hater. Then try to find one among that group that actually wants to have children before she’s 45 instead of spending all the money on herself.

That tiny pool of decent women gets snapped up very quickly by people who are at the very top of the economic earning ladder. No woman worth supporting is available to a middle-class to upper-middle-class wage earner.

Western women are bred to hate men and resent men. They become social outcasts in this culture if they admit that they might need a man in their life.

So the idea that men should still desire to work and support a family when the women who would both merit such attention and genuinely appreciate him for providing it are a rare and unattainable commodity.


250 posted on 10/06/2016 2:41:17 PM PDT by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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