Posted on 10/02/2016 11:36:48 AM PDT by Mariner
Edited on 10/02/2016 12:17:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Explains much. Thanks for posting.
I am not going to waste my time reading this thread.
Decades ago, I labeled such threads "Woman arrested for petting Dog" threads.
(After breaking and entering...)
Wouldn't professional thugs always answer in the affirmative?
Just move on?
...HELLO??!!??
Some cops deserve to be shot.The fact that he wasn’t charged tells me that some DAs should be as well.
He admits to having done time.He admits to having used a shovel to try to pry open the garage door.It was strange that he didn't have a key.His story wasn't adding up in a number of ways.And then he gets on the phone and talks to someone whose identity (and criminal history) the cop could only guess at.Add to that the restraining order and the "long criminal history" (assuming both claims are factual) and you have a guy who the cop had *damn* good reason to be more than a little bit suspicious of.
*Damn* good reason.
Citizens don’t have to ask the government’s permission to make a phone call.
I think you have it nailed right there. Cops too lazy to march him next door and ask?
I do find it odd that he said he had no ID on him. Did he drive there?
What RK did to deserve the smackdown became irrelevant because of the optics of the smackdown.
Same thing here. Roughing up a perp is bad form. Being Officer Friendly pays huge dividends. These cops didn’t. They ended their careers, This guy may be a scumbag to end all scumbags but due to the optics, he’ll walk away with a lot of money and the ex-cops will be lucky to walk away with their freedom. And as a bonus, the optics just convinced a few thousand more people to not cooperate with the police.
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
I can only speak for what I witnessed in NYC. Everything seemed to change WRT police attitude toward civilians at the time of the Knapp Commission and the lay-offs. Even guys I’d grown up with who had become cops had gone off the deep end with this “us against them” attitude. You couldn’t even talk to them about sports. So they went their way and I went mine.
I now live in rural WV and I see the same attitude in the skinhead keystones when I go to town. Luckily I live out in the county.
“There will probably be a lawsuit and some violence somewhere sparked by this case.”
I hope you’re right about the lawsuit...and wrong about the violence.
All calm and reasonable observations, were it not for several realities.
Criminally bent cultures are not reasonable or "common sense." Ever watch "COPS?"
Those criminals are consummate actors; Oscar material.
They also make up stories that would make Al Capone weep... totally convincing, and with a straight face.
It will be along time before I get IQ reduction surgery to be able to accept that the cops are always the villains.
If you were in a similar situation, being threatened with arrest on your own front yard, you too may call for help. Be it having your butler call your attorney, or calling someone to verify your situation. This is a perfectly normal response. The cops are also free to call for more help. In this case they could have called for someone to check with the neighbors. In this case they were more interested in their ego. How dare someone on their own property question them. I tell you this if I was subject to the cops at my house, for a reason I knew was false, I could not logically get past that mental barrier. A mans home is his castle.
y,you follow all commands to the letter and while doing so you let the cop know...very calmly...that you intend to sue his employer and him *personally* for millions.
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That last bit of advice, if followed, is a provocation that could get someone killed. I would not recommend doing that.
It's much more likely to cause the cop to be very,*very* careful and do *everything* by the book.
In this case it wasn't his home.And in this case the owner,his mother,had a restraining order out on him.
True, but if a cop has asked me to put the phone on speaker, I would oblige him. The man had previously called his mom on speakerphone, and it went to voicemail. I would think since the example had already been set in that regard, I would still let the officer know who I wanted to call, and why, and put them on speakerphone if that was preferred by the cop. I don’t think I would ignore his request.
I still don’t understand why this guy had no key to a house that he goes to “every day for 10 years”. That to me was questionable on his part. Surely he would know where the spare hide-a-key is. It doesn’t make sense that he didn’t have a key or know where a spare was.
No, but it was not a reporter from Scramento.
Most cops would laugh in your face and forget about cutting you a break on that taillight violation, but if your luck is very, very bad you just be dealing with one of the tiny handful who would very carefully, by the book, run you in for fleeing on foot, resisting arrest, possession of a controlled substance, and possibly wipe the bad attitude off your face with a flashlight.
Travel with caution.
For the record, I do not think that all police can do no wrong. I just want to hear and see all the evidence before I make a determination one way or the other. Yes, there are bad cops. They should be rooted out.
Why didn’t the guy have a key to his mom’s house if he was there every day for 10 years, and may I add, welcome there? There are rumors that his mother had a restraining order out against him. I don’t know if that’s true, but if it is, then he wasn’t being truthful to the cops. Maybe that’s why his call went to voicemail.
Who said all cops are bad? Some are, a few rotten apples. In my childhood, I came across a drunken, racist cop who threatened me with bodily harm for no reason.
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