Posted on 10/01/2016 7:10:03 AM PDT by Mariner
Two Sacramento police officers attempted to run over a mentally ill homeless man with their car less than 35 seconds before they shot and killed him, according to recordings released by police this month.
One of the officers says f--- this guy in the frantic final minute before they shot Joseph Mann on Del Paso Boulevard. Moments later, the driver says, Im going to hit him.
OK. Go for it. Go for it, his partner responds.
During that sequence, the officers gunned their vehicle toward Mann, backed up, turned and then drove toward him again, based on dashcam video released by police. They stopped the car, ran toward Mann on foot and shot him 14 times.
The July 11 incident has sparked protest from local religious and black leaders, who say Sacramento Police Department officers escalated the situation and unnecessarily resorted to lethal force.
The content of the dashcam audio was first reported by the Sacramento News and Review. The Bee reviewed the clip of Officers Randy Lozoya and John Tennis after enhancing the audio to highlight their voices.
The dashcam video was released Sept. 20 after The Sacramento Bee obtained surveillance footage from a private citizen that showed the officers shooting Mann. Within an hour of The Bee posting the footage online, Sacramento police called a news conference to release video from three dashboard cameras as well as audio from two 911 calls and other information.
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Video at the link shows the cops attempting deadly force before they finally corner the guy and shoot him 14 times.
I THINK only because he ran from them, then squared up and pointed an e-pen smokeless cigarette at them.
Cameras are a potent weapon.
The vaper criminal alien was from Africa, this is someone else.
Were there two incidents of men pointing e-cigarettes at cops?
SMH... bizarre.
This is part of a fog of spiritual war upon the land, I think. Between the outlandish accusations of BLM and then crazy apparent fuzz rage like this, the country is hurled into complete confusion. Something that only the devil could love.
The article posted here is about an incident in Sacramento; the one you linked to is about an incident in San Diego.
Regards,
Did you even watch the video?
It does not match the sensational headline.
In dashcam footage from the first patrol car to arrive on the scene, Mann tells officers he does not have a gun. In that video, an officer says, Get your hands up and get on the ground. They said you had a gun. Get on the ground.
Mann: I dont have a gun.
Officer: Get on the ground. Get on the ground.
Mann did not comply and continued to move away from those officers, who pursued him at a slow speed, trying to de-escalate the situation.
Mann made his way to Del Paso Boulevard. He yelled threats at police and threw a thermos at their car as he went. Police repeatedly ordered him to drop the knife with a 4-inch blade, but he did not drop it.
In the dashcam video from the car used by Lozoya and Tennis, the officers attempt to hit Mann as he crosses a side street but miss him. The car screeches, reverses and then turns onto Del Paso Boulevard to continue the pursuit.
As Mann runs across Del Paso Boulevard, one of the officers says, Watch it! Watch it! Watch!
In the next audible clip, an officer says, Well get him. Well get him. They stop the car, exit and then chase Mann on foot.
Seconds later, they fired 18 shots at Mann, hitting him with 14, according to Somers. Their gunfire is heard on the dashcam video. Measurements taken by The Bee based on the officers position in the video put them about 27 feet away from Mann when they began firing.
Somers later said a toxicology report found methamphetamine in Manns system.
I don’t know all the facts but that doesn’t look good.
I couldn’t imagine how difficult the job is for a police officer with all the methamphetamine, bath salts, synthetic marijuana, etc., on streets. That and a lot of mentally ill people.
I don’t know all the facts but that doesn’t look good.
I couldn’t imagine how difficult the job is for a police officer with all the methamphetamine, bath salts, synthetic marijuana, etc., on streets. That and a lot of mentally ill people.
I watched the video and I think it's a good match.
Anytime you attempt to hit someone with a car it's attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon under the law.
Or, self defense.
As people become more and more swept up into the acts of spirits of hell, there will be more insanity and more intoxicant abuse. And the same demons will then stir up irresponsible and outrageous conduct on the part of those who have been hired to supposedly know better. And then a chorus of voices cursing both sides of the fight will arise, comforting themselves in how they have “solved the moral problem.” And nothing actually happens to try to foster peace.
No attempt to taze? Sometimes it does not work for those high on intoxicants but it is not known until it is tried.
Or defense of others.
Or Grand Theft Auto skills put to use.
Do tazers work from 27 feet away?
Grand theft of good sense, I wonder.
10 meters, per Google, so yes, barely
It is undisputed that Mann had a knife and was resisting arrest.
Now I ask you to consider this. If the police are not allowed to act decisively and stop him, and he guts somebody on the street, who bears at least part of the responsibility?
No police officer wants to live with that; that because of political correctness, because of fear of riots, because of limp wristed policies foisted on them by a racist DOJ, somebodies family member gets killed?
A man running around with a knife, resisting arrest by police is a danger to society and should be taken into custody by lethal force.
I won’t opine on whether the cops are justified in their actions. I will say however, that whether cops are right or wrong, bad behavior is usually present when these deaths by police occur.
It depends on the type of cartridge. Some only go from 15 feet, most departments take the 21 foot cartridge.
The cartridges are very expensive.
I watched the video and I think it's a good match.
Anytime you attempt to hit someone with a car it's attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon under the law.
Or, self defense.
I wonder how you would describe this one from our adjacent town of Marana in AZ that occurred last year?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/14/us/arizona-police-run-over-suspect/
Hit at around 2:30 in the video.
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