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To: wardaddy

I think yours are old arguments.

Right now, the number of opiate abusers in the US has quadrupled in five years. If addicts can no longer get the pharmaceuticals they want, heroin is a quarter of the price of black market opiates.

And because heroin is expensive, it is cut with the dirt cheap Fentanyl (100 times stronger than morphine) as well as its equally potent chemical analogs. Fentanyl and its analogs have already killed hundreds, perhaps thousands of Americans, and shows signs of killing many more.

So yeah, opiates are good, when you have to have them. But if at all possible they should be avoided, or you should get off them ASAP. Because if you get addicted, your life can turn to crap.


66 posted on 09/27/2016 12:49:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Pelham; Mr. Mojo; onyx; Travis McGee

Heroin is inexpensive in Nashville and it’s incredibly potent due to our huge beanpop

20 bucks will get two regular people throwing up high so I’m told

Giving people pain relief by the way is not an argument that ages

I’ve taken 10mg oxycodone thus far today and I’m going about my business just fine with a chronic pain level around 2-4 versus 7-10 depending

I’m almost 60 and survived a life of gunshots and motorcycle wrecks and open heart surgeries and a pacemaker and thyroid disease and am responsible for the welfare of 9 family members plus my employees whom I do feel a responsibility for

Nine dependents !

Try that on for size

I frankly do not know anyone else who does all I do through feast and famine which is the bane of self employment

And if moderate opioid use and steroid use too for pain mgt helps folks like me function with chronic pain in my October years then that’s my business not the govt or church ladies

I think I can figure out for myself I’ve earned that right of responsibility many times over not to have it usurped by the high and mighty busybodies

Drug warriors can simply mind their own business

They’ve already ruined my allergies addled asthmatic 16 year old sons ability to get pseudo ephedrine which frankly is the absolute only relief for a constant flowing snot nose

But nooooooooo

Because a few dumbass hillbillies make meth from crushed pills let’s make it hard for those who really need them to get them

One a day

That’s the limit 30 mg one a day

My wife and I and friends have to run the gauntlet to get them for him

It’s ridiculous

I wish they made Drug Warriors have to ration their booze purchases

That would be the shoe on the other foot nanny state wise


67 posted on 09/27/2016 1:09:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I think yours are old arguments.

That does not mean they are bad or even wrong-headed arguments.

The issue is a two-sided one. Users for medicinal purposes vs. recreational users.

The issue is a balancing act of how to protect the true medicinal users from being treated like criminal recreational users. Much like protecting law abiding legal gun owners while dealing with legal & illegal gun owners who commit crimes.

Some say that eliminating the possibility of a legal law abiding gun owner from becoming a criminal gun owner is to make gun ownership illegal.

The same argument is used with powerful drugs.

Eliminate potent narcotics from the marketplace, as the solution to combat the possibility of recreational usage of these narcotics.

This of course requires those who need them to lead a life that allows them the opportunity to remain a productive member of society with a pain level that is bearable, to be denied that opportunity. Thus they are treated just like the illegal recreational users and denied a product that they use legally and responsibly, because some do not.

72 posted on 09/28/2016 4:40:56 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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