Posted on 09/24/2016 9:40:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
You don’t give your enemy ANY hint as to your capabilities or the means to defeat them; hence, you do NOT publish encryption algorithms. The NSA doesn’t publish military grade encryption for that very reason, not because they the algorithms are weak in any way. In fact, AES is pathetically weak in comparison to military grade encryption.
Like any encryption algorithm AES is not perfect: http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/374 but you can add more rounds: http://security-architect.com/does-size-matter-aes-128-bit-encryption-is-probably-good-enough/ to add strength. As the latter link mentions AES was designed and selected to be both strong and efficient. Therefore it is weaker than it could be without the efficiency requirement.
I am sure there are classified encryption algorithms. But I consider those to be relics of a bygone era. Like this now declassified: https://www.gwern.net/docs/1955-nash In the 50's we classified many things that are common knowledge now. If we still have classified algorithms, how do we know that Snowden didn't send those to the Chinese and Russians?
Please brace for just one thick sentence:
ICANN’s power is mainly legal, and a contract with ICANN could trigger a violent dispute over international law.
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Bluntly stated: giving away ICANN could ultimately trigger a cyber war or worse.
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Raw Power and International Law
When you face a super power like the USA it helps to have raw power. China probably assumes it will not come to that, but just like nuclear deterence, they need the war-making capability.
And the Chinese already enjoy raw power. Their encryption is superior, their nuclear capability suffices, and they are now experienced at cyber warfare.
Compare that to the US — NSA recently got hacked. That was supposed to be the best encrypted, best protected agency in our nation. Imagine if all of our satellites got simultaneously hacked. We would be blind and appear weak in the eyes of the world.
Transfer of any Internet regulation presents so many profound ramifications, it is hard to grasp!!
“But I consider those to be relics of a bygone era.”
Without knowing what they are?? Really?
“If we still have classified algorithms, how do we know that Snowden didn’t send those to the Chinese and Russians?”
because anyone that knows the Snowden affair knows he never even came close to knowing such secrets. This “Snowden knew everything” crap is retarded.
‘No offense to you, AW!M, but your encryption is much much much easier to break than any known encryption algorithm ...’
I agree, but a little ‘old school’ mixed in with whatever a person has might not hurt. Especially when you get clever, such as adding a ‘blackhorse’ code in the mix and private understandings with your contacts.
Some of Rommel’s personal spies once used a classic book as a cypher. It was only worked out when British found copies of the books in the packs of agents they caught.
That's incorrect. Snowden stole and revealed TS SCI information. Government encryption is SCI.
“That’s incorrect. Snowden stole and revealed TS SCI information. Government encryption is SCI. “
So, you think because encryption might be SCI that anything and everything SCI Snowden had access to it?
No, Snowden could not possibly get all SCI. But he could have gotten it if was SCI, that’s all I am saying. The only way he could not get it, guaranteed, is if it were SAP. Is it possible we have SAP encryption programs? Sure, but that would be difficult or impossible to deploy it at any level lower than SAP.
It's true that the ultimate security, one time pad, could be done with a book like that. But the problem is the key distribution channel, that book or some other method. PKI solves that problem by using a public key that is publicized although it must still be authenticated. I don't think anything better than PKI has been invented for key distribution but there are different implementations like RSA and ECC that many have relative strengths.
Ultimately everything is political. The geeks who started and used to run the internet were apolitical, mostly libertarian. Now the internet is run by big companies run by liberals with a few exceptions like Peter Thiel. They are in bed with the liberal media. I know a pure liberal who has an important internet job and tries to influence elections. I last talked to him in 2012 and it was disgusting. They pretend they are just making the internet easier.
For example searching for Trump lies gets lots of dedicated anti-Trump sites. Searching for Hillary lies gets articles from the Washington Post, politifact and other liberal sources mixed with a few genuine anti-Hillary sites. This is all by design but they are clever enough to never have any algorithm directly biased against Trump or against conservatism. They do it all indirectly.
For example think about the characteristics of the old media (e.g. types of ads, incoming links, outgoing links, etc) versus the new media. If they can bias results to bring up more old media hits that will benefit Hillary.
Seems we would have a never ending parade of globalist candidates being propped up by globalist propaganda from abroad.
We paid for internet...Why is it fair in any sense of the word to transfer any part of it out of US jurisdiction?
That’s not how crypto classification works.
One aspect I had not even thought about enough was favoritism by our most powerful internet companies.
If firewalls separate national TLD networks ...
Facebook and Twitter and and Amazon and Kindle and possibly even Google would favor a more international firewall and probably give the US TLDs second-class status.
Facebook is already working with Europe to police ‘hate speech’ against muslims.
One aspect I had not even thought about enough was favoritism by our most powerful internet companies.
If firewalls separate national TLD networks ...
Facebook and Twitter and and Amazon and Kindle and possibly even Google would favor a more international firewall and probably give the US TLDs second-class status.
Facebook is already working with Europe to police ‘hate speech’ against muslims.
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Excellent points! Make sense because the Technocrats are supporting the transfer of internet offshore :(
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AGAIN I WILL ASK THAT ALL FREEPERS WHO CARE ABOUT A FREE INTERNET TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO CALL/EMAIL/TWEET THEIR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS IN NEXT 2 DAYS AND DEMAND THAT PROTECTING INTERNET FREEDOM ACT SB3031 AND HR5418 COME TO FLOOR FOR VOTE AND BE INCLUDED IN THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION. WE ARE DOWN TO THE WIRE FOLKS— 4 DAYS UNTIL SESSION ENDS!!
THIS IS NO TIME FOR KEYBOARD WARRIORS, TIME TO DO SOMETHING BESIDES COMMENTING ON THE PROBLEM.
Bushwon,
Do you think it makes any difference if my Senators won’t care? Who else is open to influence?
T.W.
Well, I think emailing/calling/tweeting Cruz and Duffy would be good—can always throw encouragement their way and they need to know people are supporting their efforts.
Can always tell Dems to quit playing politics with our internet..I will be calling Durbin about that.
I just spoke to McConnell’s office. I am supposed to get a call back (we’ll see...) from someone with more information, but for now, they have no statement about 3031 not being included in the Continuing Resolution (CR), so I left a a comment indicating I think the CR needs to include SB3031 language...
Still trying to get a hold of a person at Cruz DC office.
The thing is regardless of the outcome, if they think “We the people” don’t care, they will do as they please. They should at least know that they are going against the will of the people if this transfer is allowed to occur.
“...they have no statement about 3031 not being included in the Continuing Resolution (CR)...”
If you want distracted by debate fever Freepers to take action, I suggest posting a one sentence vanity stating the targeted goal is putting Icann in the (CR). Isn’t that what step must be taken to halt the transfer this week?
Keep it simple. List the phone number of the few Senators who have power to get it done. if you list only 3 names/numbers, people will find it only takes a few minutes at lunchtime. Maybe title the thread: Do You Have 3 Minutes at Lunchtime to Save the Internet? Post it to Front Page with (Urgent) in title. Something like this.
See my comment above.
Unbelievable, but I believe it!
So if ICANN and China team up to dominate the internet, some people think that we could fight back with firewalls. A balkanized internet.
But the boundries would be both physical and intellectual.
All the titans of the internet: google, amazon, facebook, and twitter — they don’t need the ‘free speech’ zone of the internet anymore. They could unite the rest of the internet where tyrants want to censor free speech.
The freedom of speech zone could be alienated, belittled, and even raided, taunted, and hacked — essentially vandalized.
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