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To: Trumplican

“Fox news keeps pushing that Johnson takes votes from Clinton more than Trump. Does any genius Freeper know if this is true or if these Johnson voters flip if it could swing back to Hillary?”

Only surmise based on Johnson’s behavior. He has been pandering to the left pretty hard in the past 30 days. So he’s acting as if his votes were coming from HRC.

Of course the Johnson/Stein vote in the polls could flip back to HRC. Polls probably overstate Johnson and Stein’s support. If history is a guide, many pissed off voters “come home” for the actual vote. But that will be true for both parties. There are plenty of voters pissed off big time at their party’s nominee. Much more so than a normal election year. Which side comes home may determine this year’s winner.

This is an insane election year. So I have no idea how it’s going to work in the real world.

I don’t think looking back to previous years tells us much in 2016. For example, Obama won in 2012 with a $100 million blitz of negative ads about Romney very early on. Rich, out of touch, gives women cancer etc. White working class voters stayed home in swing states largely because of those ads and that was the margin of victory for Obama. This year, HRC has spent 100’s of millions on negative ads and she is just running about even with Trump and, if trends continue, is losing ground. Are the negative ads not working in 2016? When Trump starts a serious TV campaign (assuming he does), will they work against HRC? Don’t know.

And we know the media will run a hard October campaign about HRC’s amazing comeback, powering through pneumonia to prove what a great president she will be, blah blah blah. That stuff has worked before. Is it going to work this year? Don’t know.

A lot of things could still go right and a lot could still go wrong.


39 posted on 09/22/2016 11:17:34 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker
One big difference is that Trump is seen by people as an entertainment figure, while Romney was seen as a businessman.

The difference here is not subtle. For some reason, people who complain incessantly about "the rich" and "the one-percenters" always overlook those wealthy people in entertainment and in sports. Nobody cares that some Hollywood dipsh!t lives in a castle, flies around in a private jet, and has no dealings with minorities other than their fellow entertainers and the guy who delivers UPS packages to the movie studio. But for some reason these 90-IQ voters seem to get all bothered over a successful business owner who works hard and employs a lot of people.

44 posted on 09/22/2016 11:29:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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