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Sale of firearms that use bullet buttons surge ahead of new California gun law
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Posted on 09/06/2016 5:01:45 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

A California gun shop sees sales of firearms that use bullet buttons to swap magazines sky rocket as new gun laws that will ban those types of weapons looms.

Christopher Lapinski, the operations manager at Last Stand Readiness & Tactical in Sacramento, told Fox 40 Sacramento that he’s seeing more people coming in to buy the gun before the law takes effect.

"The whole anti-gun movement, taking guns from citizens, literally has everyone and their grandmother buying firearms before they can't get them anymore because they want to be able to be protected," Lapinski said.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; california; guncontrol
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To: umgud
Turn them in, destroy, send or sale out of state. Current legal hi-cap pre-existing mags cannot be sold or transferred in state.

Sold or transferred, but what about just kept?

41 posted on 09/06/2016 6:20:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: yarddog

You’d have to ask a politician.

But really it’s a stupid requirement that a magazine release be flush with the upper. So rather the protruding made release button you could hit with your finger, you use a “bullet” to push in the mag release.

And the streets of California were never safer...


42 posted on 09/06/2016 6:21:33 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: Polynikes
the dispatcher telling the responding cops that there was an assault weapon registered to that address.”

The police are not your friends.

43 posted on 09/06/2016 6:22:17 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Talisker

Under current law you can keep preexisting hi-cap mags. With this new law, after Jan 1 you can’t possess. I will be a felon as I am missing two such mags that I think are in my garage.


44 posted on 09/06/2016 6:25:35 PM PDT by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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To: Robert DeLong

Dang that is fugged up - serially ??

A bullet button???


45 posted on 09/06/2016 6:31:24 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Blood of Tyrants said: "On an AR it can be removed and replaced in about 2 minutes with no tools."

The dreaded pistol grip can also be installed in a couple of minutes. If a criminal wanted to, they could install a pistol grip, commit a crime, and take off the pistol grip. The stupid law only affects the law-abiding.

The magazine limitations are similarly worthless. Even aside from the fact that millions of such magazines exist outside of Kalifornia, the technology of a gun magazine is practically 16th or 17th century. Fold some sheet metal into a box shape, cast a follower, and make a spring. There will never be a day in the future of the world where criminals are effectively denied use of a normal capacity magazine.

The only real effect of these laws is to drive law-abiding citizens, some of whom are already armed to the teeth, to purchase even more armament.

A guy I know stored several rifles out of state when the original "assault weapon" laws were passed. Within four years he had equivalent rifles back in hand through the workarounds created by the gun community and through the courts finding some of the laws vague and unenforceable.

46 posted on 09/06/2016 6:31:38 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: yarddog

I lived in California in the 1970’s and 1980’s (L.A. and Santa Barbara) and, back then, it was not only a nice place to live, it was freakin’ paradise.

It’s a damn shame what has happened to that state. Damn liberals and illegals.


47 posted on 09/06/2016 6:31:43 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: txrefugee

LMAO


48 posted on 09/06/2016 6:38:41 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I'm not buying any.

I am making some though. Curiously it is still legal to "roll your own" in California.
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Be afraid Feinstein, be very afraid.

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49 posted on 09/06/2016 6:42:26 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: atomic_dog

80% lowers are definitely on my list.


50 posted on 09/06/2016 6:44:15 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Redcitizen
“That’s some close watching if they want to come for your regular guns after you die. “

They don't come for your “regular guns” only your “registered “ AW. Makes one reconsider the reasoning behind registration. Comply with their requests as it is only “common sense” and see what it gets you. Moving any AW you had prior to California's idiotic AW legislation I believe was your best move. In most “free states” a rifle is a rifle. In California if it has some scary features it automatically becomes a “Evil Black Rifle” aka EBR.

51 posted on 09/06/2016 6:47:25 PM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: TheNext
Get to know some very old patriots. They buy and register all kinds of guns.

You are a bad man giving excellent advice like that. Thank you.
52 posted on 09/06/2016 6:50:32 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Garth Tater

Thank you. Pass it on. :-)


53 posted on 09/06/2016 6:56:57 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: Talisker
“Sold or transferred, but what about just kept?”

No problem insomuch as any “hi-cap” mags” are “grandfathered” since California has rewrote their Penal Codes and have virtually no way to confirm when they came into your possession. The rub is that any California LE can confiscate any magazine over 10 rounds as a “nuisance item” on a whim and you can get to try to get them back. Good luck with that if you want to hire a lawyer for a $40 magazine.

54 posted on 09/06/2016 6:58:21 PM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: old-ager

And a criminal will just file down the tab that prevents release without disassembly.

Criminal incompetence on the part of CA legislators.


55 posted on 09/06/2016 7:00:53 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: William Tell

There are numerous law enforcement officials in California that are advocating “non compliance” with the recently passed new gun laws. There will be as much “push back” on these unconstitutional edicts as there was on the 1990’s “assault weapon” registration requirement. Our state Attorney General, Dan Lungren, refused to enforce the requirement. Today there is a black, committed lefty, in that office. Lord help us!

Today, in order to purchase a weapon, even a 80% lower, you need to fill out the state’s version of the Federal forms. I’m praying that a Trump Administration/DOJ takes on California and its unconstitutional gun laws.


56 posted on 09/06/2016 7:10:55 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: atomic_dog
My setup looks almost identical to yours. I don't have the sign offering kindness as a default. I figure that is too situational to commit to ahead of time.

I also installed digital readouts on mine. Not cheap but works really great. I've learned a lot.

57 posted on 09/06/2016 7:27:59 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Polynikes
Polynikes said: The rub is that any California LE can confiscate any magazine over 10 rounds as a “nuisance item” on a whim "

One of the new laws signed by the Governor makes possession an "infraction"; same as some speeding tickets. First offense is $100 fine. Second is $250, etc. No whims required. Not sure of the effective date. Next July I think.

58 posted on 09/06/2016 7:34:27 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: jonrick46

“One merely has to fabricate something to stick into the opening that when pushed, releases the magazine.”

Oh, of course. The state law didn’t require the use of a bullet to eject the mag - the manufacturers did. Like taking down a rifle using a cartridge. It’s a method inherent with the way that gunmakers think.

They actually asked for a tool to remove the magazine. So it’s not an “ejectable” magazine, it’s more of a take-down procedure.

Think of the Brit who made the single-shot AR. His answer to their laws was brilliant: A burr on the magazine well. So that when one shot is fired, the bolt remains open. It thinks it’s emptied a mag. So you have to hit the bolt release everytime you shoot.

Well, as ingenuity would dictate - you can get full-auto performance out of this rifle if you simply hold the release button down.

These regulations aren’t designed to accomplish anything other than making life so difficult for manufacturers and consumers that they somehow give up on it.

But lemme tell you, and I know this for a FACT. An absolute fact - The electronic locks on guns is designed to turn off guns with a signal from a cell tower. Yes it is.


59 posted on 09/06/2016 7:39:25 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Forty-Niner
Forty-Niner said: :There are numerous law enforcement officials in California that are advocating “non compliance” with the recently passed new gun laws. "

I haven't heard that. Do you have more information?

60 posted on 09/06/2016 7:40:54 PM PDT by William Tell
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