[norwaypinesavage]

" the real point is that ethanol subsidies have no basis to exist that can be remotely connected to something ‘beneficial.’"

Exactly. That's why it's so important to note that a principled conservative can take a stand against Ethanol and still win the Iowa caucuses, regardless of the voting rules.

[Gaffer]

I understand but whether conservative (principled or not) or liberal or whatever, ethanol when properly and studied in an unbiased fashion just does not measure up to the bullshit lies this government is foisting on us as an excuse to subsidize its use.