Posted on 09/02/2016 5:02:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
Now? That's because you want to create an enormous distraction to the main issues going on in this country.
By comparison with everything else, ethanol is a nuissance issue. Yes, it's wrapped up in the uniparty/globalist/k-street control of the U.S. Government. But that is the issue, not ethanol.
No one is going to win this presidency taking a strong stand on ethanol, either side of the issue.
You are correct. Cost of fuel per mile would be the goal with these alternative fuels.
If they could actually do that, there would be no need for any kind of subsidy, etc.
I don't disagree with you. I know many who use methanol in racing. It gives more power than gasoline because it runs cooler in the engine, but overall, more maintenance is needed. It's rare that I see motorcycle engines melt down running gas (I've had one or two, because the carb mount rubber broke, and let too much air into my engine and it did damage), but guys running mini-sprints using 250cc motorcycle engines grenade them a lot. They could only run three or four races without problems, where I could run a CR-500 on gas an entire season with no issues (save for the aforementioned broken carb mounts).
Now translate that experience with small engines to a 6 or 8 cylinder auto with all the government mandate bells, whistles and sensors and see what it costs to have an exhaust system O2 wideband sensor (ruined by ethanol) replaced. I KNOW. It’s over a $100 a shot and they all get eventually contaminated (corroded) by ethanol. I’ve had THREE automobiles this happened with: Two Honda Accords and an F150. All three with the same 02 Sensor code failures.
I have a lawnmower, a very large outboard motor, and a generator that all prove your point about ethanol being bad for engines it is not made for. I’ve had to have all of the unplugged and reworked.
However, and I’ve been told by those mechanics that ethanol reacts with the plastics/rubbers in those engines, but that different categories of plastics are just fine.
I have yet to buy one of those newer ethanol accepting engines, so I’m just going on hearsay from mechanics and from my reading.
Yes, the effects vary. On 2 cycles the very thin plastic gaskets, flapper valves and rubber hoses and gaskets tend to degrade. I have extensively researched, replaced and now have rebuild kits for all of them.
I ended up buying a sensor reset tool to stop the O2 engine sensor “warning” lights. Cheaper than replacing one for $100 every six months.
The stuff is real crap. I use a product called Startron in my vehicles that helps to mitigate the effects of ethanol on the fuel systems. I add a couple of gallons of 100 LL avgas per fill up in my 67 GTO.
You treat that “goat” real nice, you hear? :0)
Interesting, I've had none of those problems, and we've had alcohol in the fuel at 10% here for 6-plus years, and I've had the same vehicles for most of that.
I wonder if it has to do with the fact that, except for Monsoon Season here (high desert 5,000-6,000' in Albuquerque), the air is very dry.
I see you're in the southeast, with a whole lot more moisture to pull from the air...
Thanks. It seems to remove some of the harmful ethanol effects like removing moisture. What does it do to mileage efficiency and cost of it with respect to untainted gasoline to start with? Thanks!
If this is for mainly small engines then I could see using it even if it costs more, however.
2004 Honda Accord, 2009 Honda Accord, 2010 Ford F-150....even a 2012 Ford Explorer that’s had the same fault once or twice, here.
I suppose the humidity and moisture could be a factor. Count yourself lucky.
It has its own bedroom in the garage. It really loves a steady diet of avgas.
I bought the car in 89 back when they were affordable.
My dad would like to see that vintage Massey.
He and my uncle have plenty of Massey Ferguson, small to large. Maybe one or two gas burners.
My old Willys jeep gets only ethanol free.
67 is the last model before the radical form change. It’s classic. Ever ride in one brand new fresh off the line?
So far. Don't get me wrong, I know what alcohol does, I just don't understand why it seems to affect some really bad, and others not so much. And humidity is about the only thing I could come up with.
Just one time leaving methanol in my carb for two weeks left it so caked with salts it wouldn't do anything. That's why I know it's crap as anything for normal driving. Racing is okay.
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