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Canada to allow banks to use deposits to cover the banks debts
Government of Canada - 2016 Budget ^ | 26 August 2016 | Government of Canada

Posted on 08/26/2016 9:42:23 AM PDT by MeganC

Introducing a Bank Recapitalization “Bail-in” Regime

To protect Canadian taxpayers in the unlikely event of a large bank failure, the Government is proposing to implement a bail-in regime that would reinforce that bank shareholders and creditors are responsible for the bank’s risks—not taxpayers. This would allow authorities to convert eligible long-term debt of a failing systemically important bank into common shares to recapitalize the bank and allow it to remain open and operating. Such a measure is in line with international efforts to address the potential risks to the financial system and broader economy of institutions perceived as “too-big-to-fail”.

The Government is proposing to introduce framework legislation for the regime along with accompanying enhancements to Canada’s bank resolution toolkit. Regulations and guidelines setting out further features of the regime will follow. This will provide stakeholders with an additional opportunity to comment on elements of the proposed regime.

(Excerpt) Read more at budget.gc.ca ...


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To: MeganC

Same, wrong, conclusion there.

That article talks about new entities becoming owners of the depositor accounts, sort of like having your mortgage sold, except that you won’t necessarily have the same savings rate.

Also, it refers to depositors in investment banks, which is not the same as your FDIC insured bank.

So, that article, while better than zerohedge, has a lot of different subjects in it, each with it’s own particular context.


41 posted on 08/26/2016 10:37:18 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: PAR35

I guess the US crooks will see how to put us all on the plantation....when the pension guarantee corp runs out of money, which it already may have, I guess they will force the pensioners to work for their defunct companies at the same level as that of a slave.


42 posted on 08/26/2016 10:37:22 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: PAR35

Then by all means, please put all of your money in the bank where the 100% trustworthy people from the Federal Government will take care of it for you.


43 posted on 08/26/2016 10:39:32 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: fruser1

Yea, they are the banks asset though, not the depositor. The depositor is owed, though it is a demand deposit under normal circumstances.


44 posted on 08/26/2016 10:46:33 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Correct.

But the assets are not what’s being proposed to use for bail out.

Creditors and shareholders are.

So, again, the article linked makes no mention of using depositor accounts to pay for bail out, which contradicts the title of the thread.


45 posted on 08/26/2016 10:55:35 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: PAR35

Then maybe banks should quit making loans they don’t expect to be repaid.


46 posted on 08/26/2016 11:01:41 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: fruser1

As long as you are under the belief you are not an unsecured creditor when you deposit money into your bank account, you will never properly interpret any of these articles.


47 posted on 08/26/2016 11:05:09 AM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: MeganC

One day the banks will charge a fee, or an interest rate on demand deposits. They will justify the charge saying, security of your assets cost money.

I hope I’m wrong.

5.56mm


48 posted on 08/26/2016 11:05:44 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: fruser1

Whomever deposited money is a creditor.


49 posted on 08/26/2016 11:07:44 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: spyone

As long as you are under the belief that cash is a real asset, you will never properly interpret reality.


50 posted on 08/26/2016 11:10:01 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: KarlInOhio
Creditors is used. If I deposit money into a bank I am one of the bank’s creditors.

the Government is proposing to implement a bail-in regime that would reinforce that bank shareholders and creditors are responsible for the bank’s risks—not taxpayers. This would allow authorities to convert eligible long-term debt of a failing systemically important bank into common shares to recapitalize the bank and allow it to remain open and operating.

If they meant depositors, why say "long-term debt"?

They could have easily said "all debt" or "bank shareholders and creditors and depositors".

The OP's claim is weak.

51 posted on 08/26/2016 11:12:25 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: MeganC

And the first little piggie built his house out of straw. The wolf lit it up and had roast pork for supper.


52 posted on 08/26/2016 11:27:30 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Don't argue with a Liberal. Ask him simple questions and listen to him stutterThe media fix is in)
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To: DuncanWaring
Then maybe banks should quit making loans they don’t expect to be repaid.

If they knowingly violate the law, the regulators will come down on them. And the law requires bad loans. CRA exams are as important as regular exams.

For your reading enjoyment: https://www.frbatlanta.org/banking/publications/community-reinvestment-act/your-banks-overall-cra-rating.aspx

53 posted on 08/26/2016 11:31:43 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Then maybe the government should quit requiring banks to make loans they know will never be repaid.


54 posted on 08/26/2016 11:48:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: PAR35
the FDIC ran out of money again during the housing bubble crisis;

Not exactly. When the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) was running low, they assessed banks for three years worth of fees. As a further backstop, they arranged for a line of credit with the Treasury, which was not used.

Current balance in the DIF is approximately $72 Billion.

FDIC is one of the few federal agencies I trust, but I'm biased. I worked for them from 2009-2014, in the division that handled the bank closings. Now I'm working at another agency, and I'm miserable...no leadership, no accountability, no nothing.

Would've stayed at the FDIC if I could have, but I was on a term contract, and the term ended.

55 posted on 08/26/2016 12:47:02 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: MeganC

Ellen is funny. Not a serious source of info.


56 posted on 08/26/2016 1:19:52 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: DuncanWaring

yup.


57 posted on 08/26/2016 5:43:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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