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To: Frederick303

I carefully suggested you talk some sense into your friends.

I did not say you harbored these thoughts.

Certain segments of our populace are practically certifiable these days. That does not mean they are right.

I would caution you about being around folks like that. You never know when a situation will blossom, and some idiot starts making choices you’ll have to live with.

Spreading terror to the police? You do realize you were talking to a potential terrorist right?


53 posted on 08/23/2016 2:58:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have no influence over any of these chaps.

The one was a reservist, black fellow I have known for years, one state over (New York). That unit had a lot of people who were police in their full time job. The second was a local guy who was commenting on a PA event where a handcuffed kid was shot and killed by police (after spitting on the cop), yet no grand jury was called. The statement occurred at a gun club and several people nodded their heads, the exact significance of that I know not. None of these folks were radicals so as I could tell, all have jobs, none have been arrested and all are solid middle class types married with kids (black guy too, stand up guy).

I mentioned the police in that reserve unit. All stand up guys, I would have trusted any of them with my life. All those guys are on the right side of everything I hold dear, though some of the older guys are a bit jaded, but who would not be?. Same is true of the local/state cops I know, my interactions with them have been above reproach (even when stopped by them).

Tensions are rising. It is as if a spring is being wound up. It is not only minorities that are a wee bit upset by what is occurring with police and their attitudes. I live in a middle class area and I have head more than one fellow opinion that police are a greater threat to the populace than the criminals (once again I do not agree but that is the perception with a lot of professionals I now in their 50s). Folks are taking sides, at least in their mind. The perception of reality is very different to different folks. Dallas was kind of a shock, it was as if a line in the sand was passed. To me I do not recall since the 1970s any attacks on law enforcement, yet I have a feeling worse could come down the line if things keep going this way.

You mentioned terrorists, no, what they are in my estimation is folks who see injustice and will now act if their children are directly affected. They know the consequences but see no other way to achieve justice but to go medieval on the families of those who they perceive as their foe

I do not know about the blacks, but the gun club guy would be cheering if the police went after the BLM crowd with their shenanigans. By the same token if a policeman was to shoot his son, who is a good kid I suspect we would be reading about it shortly (unless it was idle words, could well be).

My main point is the belief in intuitions that allows folks to put aside private justice is frayed to the breaking point. In order to reign it in the police are going to have to try and reduce the degree to which they use deadly force so soon in an encounter. Else there will be more escalation.


58 posted on 08/23/2016 3:33:55 PM PDT by Frederick303
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