Posted on 08/22/2016 6:01:22 AM PDT by artichokegrower
Maria Rivera sold her home and went bankrupt in recent years trying to pay the $16,372 she owed Orange County for incarcerating her then-teenage son in Juvenile Hall.
Yet, even after her bankruptcy, the county – which state law permits to charge parents for locking up their kids – persisted in pursuing Rivera for the rest of what she owed.
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Squeeze until nothing comes out. Then stop.
I don’t see a problem.
Some useless garbage street scum just arson destroyed a brand new park in my town. I fully expect when they find these human trash receptacles that they absolutely bankrupt them and their family to cover the $80K in damage to brand new playground equipment.
Violent criminals, yeah. But they also do this for truancy and minor crimes.
If you’re on SS and go to prison I believe that money goes to pay for your incarceration.
So, charge them $500 for keeping their truant runt in Juvenile hall for a week. Learn a lesson
NYS also allows municipalities to go after parents of juveniles who are placed in state custody, the amount being a sliding scale based on income.
I worked with a lady, her eighteen year old son starting skipping school to avoid the violence. A grown man. She didn’t know as she worked all day. Upshot was $20k in fines for Mom, or bankruptcy for Mom and the threat of adult prison for the son.
The mom made minimum wage and had other kids. She had a little frame house that her mother left her, and government thugs were threatening to take that.
All because an adult male didn’t show up to a violent government school for a daily beating.
They can charge an adult who is old enough to leave school, with truancy?
Orwellian.
Different story as an adult. And if he can prove daily beatings, there should be no case. Sounds like $5,000 on a lawyer would have been money well spent.
I think Maryland requires school attendance until 18.
A couple of our home schooled kids were essentially done by 16 and doing community college classes. We weren’t too worried about the truancy laws but were familiar with them.
Frankly, having truancy laws up to age 18 is stupid. By 16, the losers who clearly don’t want school already know it and are an impediment to the actual students, thus should be allowed to leave or expelled.
Ouch. I guess selling your assets and going into bankruptcy isn't enough for .gov.
Last week, the Orange County Probation Department was scolded by a federal appeals court for continuing to pursue the debt after Rivera’s bankruptcy, calling the county’s tenacity “disturbing” and ruling that it could not continue to go after Rivera for her debt.
That's a no-no. When a debt is discharged via bankruptcy, it's gone. You can't go after it again. That's a violation of Federal bankruptcy laws. They already took everything she had - and she sought and earned legal relief.
This is really a county shakedown... I don't like it when Governments illegally shake people down for money, breaking their own laws to do so.
It's almost never a good idea to provide incentives for government agencies to become profit centers.
See asset forfeiture.
“This is really a county shakedown... I don’t like it when Governments illegally shake people down for money, breaking their own laws to do so.”
The problem is that these gang bangers are doing a shakedown of the local taxpayers as well as terrorizing our communities. Here on the Central California Coast our towns and cities are under siege by street thugs many living illegally in our country. They get shot, refuse to corporate with law enforcement, get a $30,000 helicopter ride to a Bay Area trauma center, and then rack up $1 million in the intensive care unit. I say copy the Israeli example of bulldozing down the houses of the terrorists or in our case bankrupt the families.
“It’s almost never a good idea to provide incentives for government agencies to become profit centers.”
In this case I would like to see 8 families who bred these thugs suffer the consequences. If they lose their EBT card and Medi-Cal subsidy all the better
8 men charged with homicide after 4-year-old Watsonville girl shot
Oh, I agree with the results of gangbangers (I am a resident of Ventura county; we don’t have it as bad as you, but...)
HOWEVER, she has had her home bulldozed, so to speak - she declared bankruptcy. The law says that debts discharged by bankruptcy are gone. The creditors are barred from ever pursuing that debt again. In this case, the County continued to illegally pursue the debt. That’s the problem.
I have no problem with making her pay the costs at the beginning, but once you go through bankruptcy and have your debt discharged - that’s it. I do not agree with the County continuing to pursue after that action.
100% spot on. This is the problem. The Government already discharged the debt; having another arm of the Government continue to pursue is completely wrong and illegal.
“I think Maryland requires school attendance until 18.”
I checked, it’s currently 17. I don’t know if it had ever been less than that, at least not recently.
In my home state of Idaho, back in the 1980s, you only had to be in school until 16. As a result of this rule, high school was actually less dangerous with respect to violent, unlearning utes than junior high was. And yes, small-town Idaho had its share. Mostly Mexican kids who were the children of migrants, but also white-trash punks.
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