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Hillary Clinton’s Tactic: Civil Firearms Forfeiture
Politichicks ^ | 8-12-2016 | Steven Maikoski

Posted on 08/12/2016 6:31:32 AM PDT by Loud Mime

If Hillary Clinton wins the presidency, it is likely that your Second Amendment rights will mean nothing. The constitutional protections we have depended on for years have failed when the liberals control a court; and it is likely that Hillary will redefine all courts.

The liberals’ successful record of civil asset forfeitures provides a fine example of how they can get around the constitutional protections provided by the Fifth and Second Amendments. In many civil asset forfeiture cases, the citizen has not been found guilty of any crime, but the government swoops in to seize—pardon me, to force the forfeiture of—their property and cash. This is a civil act on the part of government, not a criminal action. So, fighting their legal teams and sympathetic judges is horribly expensive and often useless.

From the liberal successes we can predict how a Hillary government will use legalities and mutant judgements to seize your firearms, along with your ammunition without touching the Second Amendment. The stage is already set. A search of proposals in Congress shows that there are over 2,000 filings with “gun” & “control” in their bodies. Over two thousand! Each has a new angle on how to restrict gun purchases and possession, all in the name of protection and safety—and it’s getting worse.

On June 27, 2016 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in Voisine & Armstrong v. United States, that persons who are convicted of misdemeanor assault may be prohibited by law from possessing a firearm—a misdemeanor! In reading the opinion of Justice Kagan, I was struck by the energy of this ruling. It makes no difference between a person intentionally harming another or a person accidentally causing harm in a domestic dispute. It blurs the distinction between actual and attempted use of physical force; it even includes “offensive touching” as a crime.

Bottom line: This ruling has made it far easier for government to confiscate firearms and ammunition.

The Second Amendment’s clause “shall not be infringed” has meant little to the courts for decades. Now it means almost nothing, because under the right circumstances—such as angering a liberal—touching a person can cause you to lose your Second Amendment rights! The wild rulings have erected a new playground for spirited attorneys and their clients to obtain large settlements and revocations of our constitutional rights, despite our Constitution’s “protections.”

Let’s get back to Hillary Clinton. Her coded speech is interesting. When she stated that she will not repeal the Second Amendment, we should take that as a warning that she will control firearms in another way. It is assured that Hillary and company will employ the liberal tactic of the manipulation and mutation of law to make a repeal unnecessary. Once they set up a corrupted justice system they can use the courts and their attorneys to portray any person who desires a certain type of gun, or more than fifty rounds of ammunition, as a dangerous person. From that point you will see the firearms forfeiture process take wing.

There is a possibility that a massive seizure of firearms may leave the civil arena. The conservative’s straight-line, constitutional thinking has been continuously out-litigated by the liberals’ creative, far-fetched thinking and mutations of justice. So, in the liberals’ next creative application of law, it is reasonable to expect them to use a phrase from the Constitution which gives incredible powers to the government: “the public Safety may require it.”

These words are from Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution, which gives Congress, under certain circumstances, the power to suspend the writ of habeas corpus. Why should gun control be any different when the public safety may require the new restrictions? If you read the pages of resolutions before Congress, you will see that the “whereas” sections are packed with statistics and examples of how dangerous guns are. The liberals see public safety as a tool to solve the gun problem.

Don’t take the gun grab with indifference. During the Republican Convention, former Navy Seal Marcus Luttrell said “Your war is here! You don’t have to find it!” This war is to keep our nation from losing to two enemies: Islam and Liberalism. We have to get serious about this election. The armchair warriors with their “Molon Labe” bumper stickers are good talk, but they’re just talk. We have to do everything we can to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. Our republican form of government cannot survive a shot from a Hillary presidency.

I will end this with a note from a great founding father, Samuel Adams:

“The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.”

When our nation’s future is at stake, I advise our patriots to vote with that in mind.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; forfeiture; guns; hillary
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

I understand. But we have to convince people to keep her out of office.


61 posted on 08/12/2016 5:37:41 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

.........I think that like in some countries experiencing civil anarchy the first group that will need help is the police. The specific help, I believe, will be that some areas of some counties will have to police themselves. We see that already.

The first thing Libs will do is shut off ammo by closing gun stores by declaring limited geographic martial law which they can do and have done (LA, Chicago, Miami). Then, like we already see in some jurisdictions in northeastern states, the Cops will come knock on your door and demand you “turn em over”.

In Texas, in my opinion, that will be the flashpoint. About the second or third time that happened, hundreds, if not thousands, of guys and gals in our area would show up locked and loaded. Bundy Ranch would like a Sunday afternoon picnic.


62 posted on 08/12/2016 6:03:26 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Terrorists killed about 3000 American citizens in one day!!

Americans have killed about 3,300 future American citizens EVERY DAY for the last 40+ years!!!

(And we fear Muslim nutjobs??)


63 posted on 08/12/2016 6:36:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

....I’m always interested in hearing a fellow freepers point of view but, sorry, I have no clue what point your trying to make.


64 posted on 08/12/2016 8:16:21 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Elsie focuses on her sort of religion. I believe her post was referring to abortion.


65 posted on 08/12/2016 8:52:51 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Cen-Tejas

The focus of this piece is to keep Hillary out of office to prevent the civil forfeitures from coming to fruition. But if she wins, those actions will take wing. To be effective, those actions will come one at a time, usually from civil complaints.

Think about the process. If your neighbors, or the teachers of your children, find you have firearms, you will be singled out. It is a matter of time before the civil forces surround your house - for the public safety, of course. It won’t be brown shirts or black helicopters; it will be your neighbors and the like.


66 posted on 08/12/2016 9:00:46 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Cen-Tejas
... sorry, I have no clue what point your trying to make.



Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

67 posted on 08/13/2016 4:44:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime
Elsie focuses on her sort of religion.

Don't we all?

68 posted on 08/13/2016 4:44:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime
If your neighbors, or the teachers of your children, find you have firearms, you will be singled out.

You make it sound as though the gun owners are in the MINORITY.

69 posted on 08/13/2016 4:46:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I was putting your previous remark in context without any judgement.


70 posted on 08/13/2016 10:04:43 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Elsie
You make it sound as though the gun owners are in the MINORITY.

To you, I suppose.

71 posted on 08/13/2016 10:07:38 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: kiryandil

Coded speech indeed, if she were being honest she would simply say that no president can repeal any amendment so that is not a concern.


72 posted on 08/13/2016 10:07:50 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Loud Mime
I was putting your previous remark in context without any judgement.

I see...


Elsie focuses on her sort of religion.

I missed the 'context' somewhere along the way.

73 posted on 08/13/2016 4:13:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime

..........well, I think your right in some precincts in some counties out of the 3,144 counties, parishes and boroughs in the U.S.

For example, in parts of say Mass., I have no doubt what you say about the “neighbors” is accurate.

But, if you go to say Odessa, Texas, every single house out there has guns laying around everywhere. Pick up trucks have them in gun racks in the back window. “Neighbors” are just that................”neighbors” and if some feds showed up to hassle the guy down the street about his guns the whole town would converge on them from all directions. There are not enough feds around with the balls to do something like that, in my opinion.


74 posted on 08/13/2016 4:56:42 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Loud Mime

yes, I see it now..............


75 posted on 08/13/2016 4:57:19 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I should have let everybody know that I live in liberal California.


76 posted on 08/13/2016 8:14:44 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

I hope not by choice!


77 posted on 08/14/2016 3:55:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime

Lol, that explains most of the difference between your thinking and mine. The political differences between West Texas and say San Francisco are like the differences between the planet Pluto and Mars!

This probably insures that eventually you, a dreaded “Californian”, will need a passport to enter The Republic of Texas at El Paso. On our side, no one wants to go to SFO anyway!..........except my daughter and she’s learning!


78 posted on 08/14/2016 8:36:40 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

California is over $420 billion in debt. You think the people would wise up.


79 posted on 08/14/2016 10:09:25 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

..........IF Trump gets elected my bet is no bailout for California!


80 posted on 08/14/2016 8:57:48 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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