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To: Mariner
Sorry to deliver bad news, but this is real. A long time ago a political operator here forever and as conservative as they come told me to believe the polls. Otherwise, you're just in denial.

Trump has been imploding. He's fighting everyone but Hillary, including people whose support he needs and was going to get. He's picking stupid fights. Trump needs to get his head out of his @$$ soon, start fighting Hillary instead of everyone but and raise money and get on the air.

31 posted on 08/04/2016 10:21:55 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

I could not agree with you more. Someone os misleading Trump about how to dain voters in an election against a fiere opponent. He has a base. He is destroying the weak supporters and gaining no new ones.


45 posted on 08/04/2016 10:33:51 AM PDT by amihow (l8)
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To: colorado tanker
There is no doubt this media storm is having an effect on voter preference.

It does not affect the committed Trump or Clinton supporters, but it does affect the Independents greatly.

And you are correct that Trump needs to alter WHAT he talks about.

But "implosion" is a grand exaggeration. And that IS a complete fabrication.

50 posted on 08/04/2016 10:42:15 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: colorado tanker; Catmom
Sorry to deliver bad news, but this is real. A long time ago a political operator here forever and as conservative as they come told me to believe the polls. Otherwise, you're just in denial.

That may have been true in the past, but I fear that this is an election for survival on both sides and we're into Fight Club rules now.

Did you see this story from this morning?

CNN Rigged Poll: Excludes ages 18-49 for questions on Democratic unity, other age groups.


On the question of “democratic party unity,” they leave out frustrated millennials that support Sanders. Specifically, they leave out the 18-49 demographic. These age groups were heavy Sanders supporters. Maybe that’s why CNN didn’t want to include them in their poll. In addition, the poll excludes the 18-34 age group for their Clinton/Kaine match-up with Trump/Pence. In addition, CNN reports the sampling error of +/- 8.5%. This rate is unacceptable using academic standards.

This is just today's example of how far they are willing to go to skew the polls to try to gaslight the public into thinking that Trump is collapsing and Clinton is surging.

-PJ

75 posted on 08/04/2016 11:12:25 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: colorado tanker; All
Sorry to deliver bad news, but this is real. A long time ago a political operator here forever and as conservative as they come told me to believe the polls. Otherwise, you're just in denial.

Trump has been imploding. He's fighting everyone but Hillary, including people whose support he needs and was going to get. He's picking stupid fights. Trump needs to get his head out of his @$$ soon, start fighting Hillary instead of everyone but and raise money and get on the air.

I don't believe any of that. We now know in the past the establishment in both parties conspired, along with the media deceptions/manipulations, to get the desired election results to go along with their manipulated polls.

You can give in to their deceptions and manipulations to the point it gives them the desired results but I refuse to. This whole Trump is imploding is exactly what I described in order to get the results they want. The answer is to quit giving them so much power over you. We just need to continue to stand up and expose their lies and manipulations and not cave to them any longer.

CGato

103 posted on 08/04/2016 12:14:20 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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