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Media trumpeting Trump implosion, but is it real?
Fox News ^ | August 4th, 2016 | By Howard Kurtz

Posted on 08/04/2016 10:05:21 AM PDT by Mariner

This is what a full-fledged feeding frenzy looks like.

With Donald Trump facing the roughest stretch of his candidacy, the media have moved from questioning his sanity to depicting a campaign in disarray and top Republicans still wondering whether they can dump the nominee.

That won’t happen, of course, but it’s an indication of the toxic nature of the coverage and the flood of anti-Trump leaks now washing across the media landscape.

There’s a natural piling-on effect when campaigns go off the rails: The polls dip, the critics step up their rhetoric, staffers start pointing fingers, and the press keeps the vicious cycle going.

But I’ve never seen anything like this.

Things reached the point yesterday morning that CNBC’s John Harwood tweeted: “Longtime ally of Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager: 'Manafort not challenging Trump anymore. Mailing it in. Staff suicidal.'"

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To: Catmom
Sorry to be a downer but I’m afraid these bad polls are the real deal. They’re coming from too many sources and jurisdictions.

Have you seen the polling today? In Ipsos/Reuters, Trump is only down by 4 and in a 4-way race in Florida, Trump is only down 4. He's down right now - but certainly not out.

101 posted on 08/04/2016 11:49:20 AM PDT by No Dems 2016
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To: Mariner

The smug media have been predicting Trumps’s demise for a year now. There is a whiff of desperation on their part. Trump will clean Hillary’s clock, and they know it.


102 posted on 08/04/2016 12:08:50 PM PDT by bunnie911 (�But resist, we much�we must�and we will much�about�that...be committed.ïÂ)
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To: colorado tanker; All
Sorry to deliver bad news, but this is real. A long time ago a political operator here forever and as conservative as they come told me to believe the polls. Otherwise, you're just in denial.

Trump has been imploding. He's fighting everyone but Hillary, including people whose support he needs and was going to get. He's picking stupid fights. Trump needs to get his head out of his @$$ soon, start fighting Hillary instead of everyone but and raise money and get on the air.

I don't believe any of that. We now know in the past the establishment in both parties conspired, along with the media deceptions/manipulations, to get the desired election results to go along with their manipulated polls.

You can give in to their deceptions and manipulations to the point it gives them the desired results but I refuse to. This whole Trump is imploding is exactly what I described in order to get the results they want. The answer is to quit giving them so much power over you. We just need to continue to stand up and expose their lies and manipulations and not cave to them any longer.

CGato

103 posted on 08/04/2016 12:14:20 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Mariner

104 posted on 08/04/2016 12:16:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: Mariner

The media has shrinking audiences of true liberal believers. Can’t fix them anyways.

That being said, there are powerful forces who will resort to anything.

I put nothing past these folks.


105 posted on 08/04/2016 12:22:14 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Conservative Gato
Sorry, I've been around long enough to know that when people start complaining about rigged polls it's because they're falling behind and are frustrated by that. Of course the media are spinning everything against us but they do that every cycle.

Hillary got a bounce. Almost every party gets a bounce after their convention.

What Trump has to do is quit fighting that Muslim nobody and his fellow Republicans and refocus on Hillary, a third Obamaism term and their media allies. That's the playbook that got him here and can eliminate Hillary's bounce. Cut the crap and focus on the real goal.

106 posted on 08/04/2016 12:26:02 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: free from tyranny; WildHighlander57; Conservative Gato; Psalm 144; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; ...
If the gloves ever come off...in terms of a popular uprising A first strike should encompass the silencing of the main media’s ability to broadcast!

Speaking as a former radio broadcaster myself, I can assure you that it doesn't take much to throw a monkey wrench into ANY broadcast facility. We have to recognize that with few exceptions, the media is nothing but an extension of the federal fascist regime, they do and say what they are told, and they comply because that coveted FCC broadcast license is held over their head to be sure they behave as directed.

Of course in a popular uprising, nobody is going to care about any licenses, especially when patriots storm the MSM studios and transmitter facilities and start up with 'Radio Free America'.
107 posted on 08/04/2016 12:26:08 PM PDT by mkjessup (The 'RATS are the ENEMY!! From OBAMA-'RAT to HILLARY ROTTEN RAT! GET RID OF THE 'RATS!!)
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To: Mariner

I am in a Northeast, in a state Trump won with ease and which had actually been looking like it was in play for him. And all of this is taking a toll up here. A heretofore Trump suppoeter told me today he had decided to vote Libertarian after Trump’s continued reactive battles.

In short I believe the dropping polls and think he does have to get it turned around.

There had been talk of him making a big speech on economic policy right after the conventions. I wonder what has happened to that. I would guess infighting among advisors, with Trump resisting coming out qith more concrete positions.


108 posted on 08/04/2016 12:34:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mykroar

No, the issue isn’t with his hardest core supporters. It was with all thise more middling folks he was also bringing along


109 posted on 08/04/2016 12:35:42 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: No Dems 2016

But he had been up in FL and needs to do still better to also have hope in PA, which he needs as well.

No it is not over, but it is going very much in the wrong direction right now, and it is harder to win people back the deeper in the campaign we go.


110 posted on 08/04/2016 12:38:46 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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111 posted on 08/04/2016 12:41:00 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Pride in the USA

Good article


112 posted on 08/04/2016 12:42:24 PM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: arthurus

Hillary a f’g bore to write about and the MSM is sympathetic to Leftists, so they’ll never do an investigative piece on her. Trump is interesting, even if the MSM has to create fake stories.

They’ve run out of steam on Trump “can’t win a primary”, “can’t break X % in the polls”, “can’t win 1237 delegates”, “#NeverTrump delegates”, “brokered convention”, “third party” stories.

Now the MSM just makes up stuff. After all they’ve been shown with the leaked Clinton emails they hold campaign fund-raisers for Hillary with impunity. Laws be damned. Who’s going to call them out on it The AG?

How much more corrupt can they get. Whatever they are, they’re certainly not sources of news.


113 posted on 08/04/2016 12:53:01 PM PDT by Flick Lives (TRIGGER WARNING - Posts may require application of sarcasm filter)
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To: Flick Lives

Unfortunately, the bulk of the opulation doesn’t believe anything is significant until and unless MSM says it is. People can believe something is true but give it no significance at all and at the same time believe that the MSM is totally untrustworthy, but still will not pay attention to something if MSM doesn’t tell them to or will accept something as being terribly important if MSM says it is even if in the real world it is totally insignificant or false. It is not belief, it is acceptance.


114 posted on 08/04/2016 12:58:51 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Owen

don’t quit yet concern troll...

voter enthusiasm is a huge part that you conveniently left out to make your point.

it is posts like yours, and those that I see on Facebook right now, that I am convinced are agenda posts, meant to discourage that enthusiasm.

The uni-party, globalists, Cruzers, NeverTrumpers or whatever you want to call them, know that enthusiasm is abysmal for Clinton. Hell, they might not even show up for the free cigarettes and booze on the vote bus this year...


115 posted on 08/04/2016 1:04:50 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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To: colorado tanker
Sorry, I've been around long enough to know that when people start complaining about rigged polls it's because they're falling behind and are frustrated by that. Of course the media are spinning everything against us but they do that every cycle.

I still don't believe these manipulated polls, they have always been manipulated and in the past had enough power and influence over people to make them true in many circumstances.

It's the dawn of a different day now. So much has been exposed by Trump's presidential run and much of that is the deceptions and manipulations of the enemedia. In 2008, you had McCain allowing them to destroy Palin and thus he threw in the towel proving all the pollsters right. In 2012, you had Candy Crowley, saving 0bama on Bengazi and Romney didn't have the nads to fight it thus him throwing in the towel and proving all the pollsters right.

It is why I said we need to stop giving them so much power over us because they will deceive and manipulate till they get their desired results. I'm sure this has been going on for a long, long time and it needs to stop if we are to get our country back. I refuse to let them give that power over me as well as any patriotic American. Our media is now worse than the old Soviet Pravda and should be treated as such so quit giving me all that garbage that we should trust them as I DO NOT!

CGato

116 posted on 08/04/2016 1:05:12 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: 9YearLurker
But he had been up in FL and needs to do still better to also have hope in PA, which he needs as well.

I agree it's disappointing but I must say I was pleasantly surprised by the Florida poll that shows him down by 4. After all this media excrement being thrown at him, I feared it would be worse. The Suffolk poll showed that 15% of Republicans were undecided. This means that Florida is still very winnable for him.

No it is not over, but it is going very much in the wrong direction right now, and it is harder to win people back the deeper in the campaign we go.

As much as I hate to say it, the world is so out-of-control right now that there are likely to be more serious terrorist attacks in the coming months - dare I say it - possibly on American soil. This is because Obama has surrendered our national security to political correctness and we're just sitting ducks. It's bound to happen because for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I haven't given up hope and I encourage you to not do so, either.

117 posted on 08/04/2016 1:11:51 PM PDT by No Dems 2016
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To: No Dems 2016

I haven’t given up hope, but I don’t think denial is useful either.

Anyway, he’s making his big economics speech at the Detroit Economics Club on Monday: http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000540498


118 posted on 08/04/2016 1:21:40 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Catmom

“these bad polls are the real deal....
They’re coming from too many sources and jurisdictions”

You are using emotions just as they want you to. Its easy to coordinate and follow a signaled mainstream meme. Trump isn’t hiring these polling firms, democrats and media are so there’s a natural bias.
Most important of all is not the number of polls, it is the quality of each one individually. They pack in dems, exclude Trump voters, count all people and not likely voters...etc.
There are a million games happening, don’t fall for it.


119 posted on 08/04/2016 1:31:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: V K Lee

Donald Trump is a type of Samson and this time he married the right foreign women and is staying away from Delilah! He is great at using a jawbone of the donkey party to slay Philistines and lighting fires in the media’s wheat fields with the Fox News Network.


120 posted on 08/04/2016 1:36:14 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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