Maybe if he had, he could have foretold the great tragedy which came with independence and subsequent partition. And now islam is using his name to gild the lily. Looks like stupidity wins again.
Posted on 08/03/2016 7:12:27 PM PDT by Elderberry
Donald Trump's former campaign manager on Tuesday suggested President Obama concealed his birthplace by not releasing his college transcripts.
Corey Lewandowski, now a CNN contributor, remarked on the issue during a panel discussion on the network about Obama's criticism of Trump, the Republican presidential nominee.
"The question was, did he get in as a U.S. citizen or was he brought into Harvard University as a citizen who wasn't from this country? I don't know the answer," he said.
Lewandowski said earlier that Obama was "fair game" for attacks if he continued to rip Trump.
Political commentator Angela Rye interjected that Trump "has been attacking the president long before he began campaigning."
"He is the one who was the spokesperson for the birther movement and was calling for transcripts and saying that the president was an Affirmative Action admittee of Harvard," she said.
"Did he ever release his transcripts?" Lewandowski shot back. "Or his admission to Harvard University? ... The answer is no."
The White House released Obama's long-form birth certificate in 2011 after pressure and accusations by Trump.
Lewandowski later said he wasn't questioning whether Obama was from the U.S.
There will be consequences, so choose wisely.
Fwiw, aligning your definitions, your 'truths', with the Everlasting What Is, instead of your own personal how you'd like it to be, virtually guarantees a better experience with all things in life.
On the other hand, redefining absolutes and your highest standards down to the lowest human common denominator is the guaranteed hardest way to long term happiness.
Best of luck.
I wish that you and others here who are so adamant about our following that fundamental transformation path didn't remind me so much of Cicero's enemy within quote.
But, with your workaround redefinition for natural born Presidential eligibility, you definitely do.
I mean no offense, as you and others might truly be patriotic Americans, bred, born and raised, but on this issue you and the rest seem to me like the opposite and that is confusing.
I'm trying to stay open-minded, though, simple, without malice and humble, but with this issue and too many other things, I still have a long way to go.
On the other hand, redefining absolutes and your highest standards down to the lowest human common denominator is the guaranteed hardest way to long term happiness.
Yes, that has been my message here on this thread. The evidence is clear that Obama was born in Hawaii and not Kenya. That fact cannot be wished away. Fortunately, come January, the wish itself will evaporate for all but the very few because there will be no further need for the wish. For nearly all of the wishers, the skies will be clear and blue again.
Rejoice! ;-)
Yikes. Oh well...I tried. About that "choose wisely" thing?
I know from long, personal experience that the path of stubborn self-delusion, entertaining though it may be, is no way to go through life.
That stand alone quote of yours reveals quite a bit.
If I'm looking at you in a clinical sort of way, and assuming that Cicero isn't right about you, at this point I'd have to refer you to a specialist.
Best wishes, from one soul to another.
Maybe if he had, he could have foretold the great tragedy which came with independence and subsequent partition. And now islam is using his name to gild the lily. Looks like stupidity wins again.
Whoops! I think I posted that to the wrong thread, sorry.
Wow, how could he have been so freaking ignorant! yikes. And partition was such a tragedy and bloodbath.
What monumental ignorance and naivete!
http://www.muhammadanism.com/Canon_Sell/default.htm
the bio of Muhammad by Edward Canon Sell includes numerous original Greek and Arabic sources, I highly recommend.
You seem like a person who would want to base their opinion on facts and evidence. Are you aware that there’s not one shred of evidence that Obama was born in HI?
However, outside of a courtroom, I doubt that anyone could prove it to the satisfaction of a person (1) who is determined not to believe it and (2) who does not believe that there should be any rules of evidence.
That is the status of that issue. And, in our country you get to believe as you wish. No one can force anyone to accept any reality.
The only possible evidence you could submit would be Obama’s alleged birth certificate. Are you unaware that it would be challenged? For one thing, it doesn’t match the description of the three people who actually saw Obama’s birth records prior to the appearance of the LFBC. For another thing, you’d need to answer the simple question, why was a home residence listed for Stanley Ann at which she and the baby never resided?
Obama himself can competently testify as to the facts concerning his own birth even though he had no means of acquiring personal knowledge of those facts. See Rule 804(b)(4). That evidence alone will beat you unless you can identify a witness who can testify that he/she witnessed the birth at some other location.
The birth records are admissible as well. See Rules 803(9)(19)and/or(24). See also Rules 901(1)(2)and/or(4). Those records, too, all by themselves, will be more than enough to beat you.
I know that there are other records from the newspaper, etc. but there really shouldn't be any need for them. There might also be some people who remember (but did not actually witness) the Hawaiian birth.
And, I suppose you could call any witness who actually saw him born in some other location. Unfortunately, there are no such people. So, what do you have other than doubts that you have nurtured about this or that?
‘And, in our country you get to believe as you wish.’
True. Nevertheless, I prefer to base my beliefs on facts and evidence, as opposed to believing known liars such as Obama, Democrats and the MSM. When ALL the evidence says the former are lying, I have to believe that in fact, they’re lying.
The birth records would not be submitted because they contradict the alleged LFBC.
As for known liar Obama, are you saying that if he swears he was born in HI, that makes it true? What if he’s willing to lie in court? Does that make his lie a fact?
What would you expect an honest judge to do if you have no evidence to support your claim? Ten times out of ten he must rule against you. Your hopes and wishes won't cut it.
Now you know why the people pushing this theory succeeded only in extracting dollars from suckers who wanted so much to believe them. Don't ever send money for nonsense such as this.
‘There might also be some people who remember (but did not actually witness) the Hawaiian birth.’
That’s the problem. No one—as in NO ONE—remembers Stanley Ann even being present in HI during the entire period of her pregnancy. No one. From the end of her fall term in 1960 until she magically materializes pin Seattle in August of 1961, she disappears. Off the map, a big black hole.
Yes, in the absence of a witness who can dispute it, that's exactly what it means. The law permits you to competently testify as to your date and place of birth even though you can't really remember it.
It's a sound rule. If you want to dispute the facts of someone's birth, you should bring a witness with you.
Suppose, as ALL the evidence confirms, that Obama was not born in HI. Suppose that is a fact. If you could win a ruling from a judge to the effect that Obama was born in HI, would you then consider it a fact?
I.e.: does a falsehood become true if you can win a favorable ruling from a judge?
So for you, if Obama was NOT born in HI, but if he says he was, then it becomes a fact that he was born in HI?
I.e.: not for a judge, but for YOU.
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