Posted on 08/03/2016 7:12:27 PM PDT by Elderberry
Donald Trump's former campaign manager on Tuesday suggested President Obama concealed his birthplace by not releasing his college transcripts.
Corey Lewandowski, now a CNN contributor, remarked on the issue during a panel discussion on the network about Obama's criticism of Trump, the Republican presidential nominee.
"The question was, did he get in as a U.S. citizen or was he brought into Harvard University as a citizen who wasn't from this country? I don't know the answer," he said.
Lewandowski said earlier that Obama was "fair game" for attacks if he continued to rip Trump.
Political commentator Angela Rye interjected that Trump "has been attacking the president long before he began campaigning."
"He is the one who was the spokesperson for the birther movement and was calling for transcripts and saying that the president was an Affirmative Action admittee of Harvard," she said.
"Did he ever release his transcripts?" Lewandowski shot back. "Or his admission to Harvard University? ... The answer is no."
The White House released Obama's long-form birth certificate in 2011 after pressure and accusations by Trump.
Lewandowski later said he wasn't questioning whether Obama was from the U.S.
That he was born in Kenya was in print in more publications than I can remember. I can show you copies of several, but can’t be bothered, you’re not worth the effort. The one person who spread this ‘born in Kenya’ story right from the outset, and more often than anyone, is still zero himself. That’s the man whose entire background has been sealed, and whose parents are still, after so many years, unknown.
Why would he have started this and never once made an effort to correct it?
Because it suited the myth of having a Kenyan student as a father. To accept that myth, you also have to believe all the rest of the fairy tale that is ‘Dreams From My Father’ -
a man he met once in his life.
What dreams?
Just who did the previous attorney general mean, when he said after his resignation, that zero was carrying on the work of his father?
A Kenyan drunk? A man who couldn’t support his own children? Who beat his wife, lived for a long period sleeping on the couch of a friend, didn’t have a job and ended his life driving drunk into a tree?
The Kenyan birth myth simply served zero, to keep you from asking who his real parents were and directed attention to Kenya. They could have chosen better. But the choice was made in 1961 and no one could have known what a failure that choice would turn out to be.
I really don't know who started it (I've heard the tale about the publicist and the book note), but you may be right that Obama actually worked to sustain it. I do think that his campaigns used it to tag his opponents as screwier than they really were.
A lot of us opposed Obama on substantive grounds (issues), but in order to be credible at all we often had to first overcome the suspicion that we were whacked-out birthers who couldn't accept the simple and obvious realities of his very birth. If we couldn't accept the validity of state records and contemporary newspapers, what point would there be in even discussing anything with us? Yes, I think that Obama benefited from the aura of delusion and paranoia that surrounded the entire birther movement.
So, you're right, it is entirely possible that the Obama campaigns gave quiet aid and comfort to the birther movement.
I think we can all quit referring to the question of who were his parents as the birther movement. It's a derogatory term designed to diminish the obvious question:
Who is this man; where was he born and who were his parents. What was it about his true parentage that had to be hidden? And don't say Frank Marshall Davis is his father. Frank had an attractive wife and a number of children and lived 'on the windward side of the island' Frank commuted to the office of the paper in Honolulu he wrote for on a daily basis. Frank did move closer into Honolulu later, but still a considerable distance from the so called birth announcement address, which the Dunhams apparently shared with Stanley Armour's employer, the Pratt family, for a short period.
That friendship is a fabrication which reminds me of the so-called friendship between Tom Mboya and the Kenyan student, when Tom Mboya was at Oxford, the Kenyan student had not long left the Anglican High School at Maseno, a boarding school. What on earth might they have had in common? A seasoned politician and a callow youth who was expelled for cooking chickens in his dorm room?
So just as it is unlikely Tom Mboya knew the Kenyan student, it's very doubtful he and Stanley Armour Dunham knew each other. That Dunham/Davis friendship has no basis.
It's the Davis background in Chicago and his associates that need to be looked at. His activities in the Organisation for the Protection of the Foreign Born in Hawaii that point to a possible involvement in the tampering with birth certificate lodgements and birth birth notices.
And Stanley Ann Dunham first shows up in Hawaii after a name change in 1963 with a toddler.
Go back to Start. Who was he before he became who we are to believe he is...
Birther... means nothing. Where he was born is meaningless if you don't know who he is.
I believe his father's name was Barak Obama and I believe his mother's name was Stanley Dunham. I believe he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. I base those beliefs on the State of Hawaii records.
With even less evidence, I believe that Abraham Lincoln was born in Kentucky to Thomas and Nancy Lincoln.
Is it possible that one or more of our presidents had a natural father other than the person whom has been described as the father by our history books? Of course it is.
Does it really matter? I don't see why.
Other than President Ford, the American people elected all of our presidents to national office. The people (through their electors) chose these individuals without ever being able to determine their parentage with certainty. In every case, I guess we just took a chance.
And, our country has been more successful than any other.
I don't ordinarily challenge well-founded beliefs unless there exists a reason to challenge them that is separate and distinct from just an emotional desire to believe something different. The brain deserves a good reason.
I have always known and accepted that none of us will ever know with absolute certainty the paternity of any of our presidents. Our founding fathers were well aware that our knowledge of such things would be limited and nonetheless gave us the founding document that they prepared for us.
I think or founding fathers were right - exactitude in this area is not crucial. And, our success has proved them right.
What is the ******* POINT? Stop with the stupidity already.
He served 2 terms, what is the point?””””
IF & WHEN it is proven that Obama was NEVER eligible to be President, would that reverse EVERYTHING he ever signed?????
IF so——bye, bye Obamacare!!! And lots of other things.
“Even if each and every one of those unlikely claims were true”
The birth certificates are demonstrated to be forgeries. That’s not an “unlikely claim;” it’s just a fact.
“they would not compel the equally unlikely conclusion that an American president was born in Kenya. That takes faith - a desire to believe.”
That’s circular logic. You’re saying it’s unlikely that a president could commit fraud because he’s the president.
A president who is a scoundrel would be quite likely to commit fraud.
The fact that he has presented no true birth certificate does not prove that he was born in Kenya, but it does prove that something is rotten in Denmark.
And I don’t believe, I know that you are full of s***.
As a Christian, I will ignore your vulgarity. You just try to do the best that you can with what you’ve got. ;-)
That's not something that I would ever say. However, I think that the birther delusions will evaporate just as soon (next January) as the need for them evaporates.
If you think they’re delusions, you haven’t been paying attention.
Christians are supposed to love truth, and be humble.
Double fail.
Yours in Christ
Yes, and there shall be no filthy language:
"Don’t let any foul words come out of your mouth. Only say what is helpful when it is needed for building up the community so that it benefits those who hear what you say." - Ephesians 4:29
Oh give it up, that ‘filthy word’ exists only in your imagination. It’s a perfectly normal function.
JL, maybe next time use the more clinically correct word EXCRETIA.
Or fertilizer.
None of my business, of course, just curious.
Speaking of...you've been witnessing here about the irrelevance of the "birther" issue and your own honest, BS-free testimony, right?
So, is the "Neapolitan born citizen" (foreign born to a foreign father) Teddy Cruz also irrelevant?
Doesn't Teddy also have a 'birther' problem that just won't go away and neither will he?
Your memory is correct that I once endorsed Cruz, but several months ago, I endorsed Trump when it became clear to me that Trump would be the nominee. I think that party unity is important and, if you're a citizen and allowed to vote, I hope that you will be joining me in supporting Trump this November.
Good luck to you, Fred. ;-)
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