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Georgia Republican says he might withhold electoral college vote from Donald Trump
AJC.com ^ | Aug 3 2016 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 08/03/2016 9:26:19 AM PDT by austinaero

Vu will be on the November ballot as an elector – a constitutionally mandated stand-in for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. Should Trump take Georgia, Vu will be one of 16 Georgia members of the electoral college who will formally decide the U.S. presidential contest.

Vu has just put out a statement saying that he cannot bring himself to vote for Trump in the November general election. And he might not vote for Trump as a member of the electoral college, either.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; election; republican; trump
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To: austinaero

Then GTFO scumbag.


61 posted on 08/03/2016 10:02:00 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Quote:

“Trump may be the very last Republican I ever vote for. If he loses, I’m out, simply not going to ever vote again...it won’t matter and why give the establishment information to use against you?”

Agreed. Trump wins or I quit the America I once knew. This isn’t an election. It’s a battle in a war.


62 posted on 08/03/2016 10:03:08 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Brilliant

More recent than that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector#List_of_faithless_electors


63 posted on 08/03/2016 10:06:53 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: austinaero

Is there a flotilla pushing off for Vietnam? Go ahead. Take the scenic route.


64 posted on 08/03/2016 10:09:07 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well said!


65 posted on 08/03/2016 10:09:54 AM PDT by falcon99
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To: austinaero

The reason the Founders established the Electoral College is along the same lines as why they designed that state legislatures would appoint US Senators which was the law of the land prior to the 17th Amendment. Both of these constructs were written to provide a ring of separation for the purpose of conceding power to states.

Once the 17th Amendment was ratified, the ring of separation of state legislatures was demolished thereby commencing a fading out of states rights followed so that today states have no power before the federal government.

Note that prior to the 17th Amendment, there were indeed popular votes or referendums on who a state should appoint as US Senator. But these votes were not binding. These were ‘show votes’. It was a mistake to allow the direct election of US Senators.

Power brokers of the federal government at the time of the 17th Amendment knew they would be taking power away from states because it would be easier to deal with loosely organized voters rather than deal with a state legislature that would demand concessions. To deal with voters, all that was necessary for the most part was to tell the people what they wanted to hear. With state legislatures, it was necessary to buy them off, potentially a much more expensive proposition.

The Electoral College was also set up to preserve the rights of the states to have influence over who would be elected President. But there has always existed an tacit agreement that the electors would follow the will of the People, the voters.

The US elections for President are also “show votes”. But like the 17th Amendment, it would be a colossal mistake for the Electoral College to be abolished by Constitutional Amendment. Why? Because it would essentially mean that New York and California would elect the President; the most populous states would control who would be in the White House thus making it much easier for power brokers to control the outcome.

The proper course of action before the 17th Amendment and now with the Electoral Collage is for states to ‘bind’ the legislatures and now the Electors to the will of the voters. The Electors are not to have any say in who they elect other than to follow the will of the voters.

The allocation of Electors to states is simply a number determined by census formula. The Electors are persons by history, as there were no instantaneous means of reporting the voter will of each and every state, the design was to have the Electors travel to Washington and vote according to the “show vote” plurality or majority of their states electorate.

Assigning persons to act as Electors is not really a necessity today, but certainly, the allocation of electoral votes for each state is a necessity.

In other words, the votes of the Electors should be automatic according to the will of the state’s voters, as if it were done openly by instant messaging.


66 posted on 08/03/2016 10:10:54 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Cboldt

“Just ignore this twit.”

Alas, he’s my twit trashing my vote.
Intolerable.


67 posted on 08/03/2016 10:12:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: austinaero

It’s time for Priebus to take a hike. How did he manage to get there in the first place.


68 posted on 08/03/2016 10:13:19 AM PDT by Maudeen (Sinner Saved by Grace)
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OOps. . .meant this for another thread. Oh well. . .


69 posted on 08/03/2016 10:14:48 AM PDT by Maudeen (Sinner Saved by Grace)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Today I’m going to show you how to drive a sports car. First, you need a lot of money!”


70 posted on 08/03/2016 10:15:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: FewsOrange

Hmmm... Doesn’t appear that any of them made a difference in the result. Closest call was in the Jefferson-Burr contest, but it appears that the Constitution reversed the faithless elector’s vote, so it made no difference.


71 posted on 08/03/2016 10:16:49 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ctdonath2
-- Alas, he's my twit trashing my vote. --

Not in the end he's not. He's just making noise. There are a few of these in every election. They don't usually pop up until after the general, but they are inevitable.

Electoral College Puts Bush Over the Top - ABC News - Dec 18, 2000

But one Bush elector from Virginia, Frances Sadler, said today she had received more than 400 phone calls in the last week about her vote, most of them from people urging her to switch.

Some interesting historical summary in the article, if you have the time and inclination.

72 posted on 08/03/2016 10:27:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: austinaero
WHO is VU??

Is he from some third world dung heap who for SOME "diverse" reason was assigned a GOP delegate seat?? America -- the land who welcomes parasites, ingrates, and self-entitled mini-czars.

Has this guy's family EVER spilled a drop of blood or defended America's sovereignty and ideals? But now he refuses to appreciate those Founders' ideals and sacrifices, making his middle-finger statement to OUR Candidate for President.

Vu is a publicity-hound, knowing full well the MSM will be kissing his rump for acknowledging his screwing of OUR descendants, Trump, and the rest of us; His grandstanding a pathetic exercise in selfishness and devoid of respect of the past sacrifices and ideals that MADE AMERICA.

73 posted on 08/03/2016 10:28:44 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Jean2
If this Vu person doesn’t like it; he should go back to Vietnam or wherever he came from.

If so, the damned shame is that ANY American had to serve, fight, bleed, and die THERE so this POS could come over HERE and piss on the graves of those same Americans.

74 posted on 08/03/2016 10:31:11 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: austinaero

Seems like I heard this term “blowback” at the range, a few days ago.
If that what he’s looking for, he might get some.


75 posted on 08/03/2016 10:36:12 AM PDT by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: LS

So the people vote in the primaries and the sainted GOP Party says we don’t like your pick screw you and are forced to grudgingly accept the peoples will and still are looking to try and force their PC stench filled room of cronies pick.

Next up if Trump wins, why the people be damned says the Electoral College delegates, we know better than you, piss on your vote.

What happens if the judicial system decides to get involved in elections? You say it won’t or can’t happen but routinely state and federal courts take referendums that the people overwhelmingly support or reject and tell the people piss on you and your vote we know better you will do it OUR way peasants.

At what point do the American people realize their vote doesn’t mean as much as they think it does. The government at all levels and the elites consider your vote at best a suggestion they may or may not want to follow.


76 posted on 08/03/2016 10:37:26 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: austinaero
We the People Elites of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility maintain our lavish lifestyle, provide for the common defence of our political careers, promote the general Welfare of our friends, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
77 posted on 08/03/2016 10:43:59 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: Redwood71; Signalman; Zarro; KC_Lion; Flick Lives; Robert DeLong; Vigilanteman; savedbygrace; ...
Should Vu vote for whom he wishes, he will perform his duty as the Framers intended.

The electors of Article II were designed to use their judgment in their vote for president. At each state "college" on election day, they were to meet and discuss among themselves for whom to vote.

The political party takeover of the electoral system is a corruption of the Framers'intent to install presidents unburdened with political debts. They knew that a man indebted to those who put him in office could hardly be expected to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Popular vote be damned.

Donald Trump: The Echo of Our Framers' President.

The Framers' President.

The Framers' President II.

78 posted on 08/03/2016 10:45:37 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: austinaero

Put in Sum Ting Wong


79 posted on 08/03/2016 10:51:28 AM PDT by stillfree? (My My My)
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To: HangUpNow

Amen to that!


80 posted on 08/03/2016 10:54:40 AM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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