Posted on 08/01/2016 4:39:18 AM PDT by Kaslin
The primaries are over and Trump is the nominee, and instead of whining about it like a Millennial faced with having to get a job we need to step back and ask ourselves if we have learned anything from this bizarre turn of events. The GOP our GOP has nominated someone who is not a traditional conservative. Hes not even an untraditional conservative. Hell, theres probably not even a c or a v in whatever he is. So we can either try to figure out what happened or keep rending our clothes and gnashing our teeth about how our own voter base took one look at us and rejected us like any sober, sighted guy in a bar at 7 p.m. would reject Lena Dunham.
What have we learned from this? We cant answer that unless we get beyond the natural tendency to assume that the problem is that everyone else is wrong: Gosh, if the voters werent so stupid they would have totally fallen in line with our commands and right now wed be watching Jeb Bush being fitted for a gimp suit by Hillary instead of seeing Trump [checks current polls] uh, cleaning her clock. Wait, what?
Did we ever actually listen to our people? I mean all our people, not just the people who went to the same colleges as us and who hang with us at the same awesome restaurants and read National Review. I mean the actual voters out there in wherever actual GOP voters live. Did we pay attention to them and their concerns? Did we listen to them about illegal immigration, about the impact of free trade, about the wars we supported? And did we fight? I dont mean just give lip service to how bad and unwashed liberals are, but really get in there and stand up to these flag-hating, gender-inventing, God-booing jerks? Or did we look down on the very people we were depending on at election time?
In short, did we completely screw up? Nah, its clearly everyone else whos wrong. Theyre just too stupid to understand that they need to obediently fall in line. After all, their real interests are actually and super conveniently our interests.
Seriously is that where we are at? Because Im hearing a lot of such nonsense from people horrified at Trump and, by extension, the GOP voters who nominated him fair and square. Can we really blame them for voting for the one guy who actually paid attention to what they were saying?
Did we listen about illegal immigration? Heck, illegal immigration is just wonderful for us. We get cheaper restaurant food, cheaper houses, cheaper maids, and if we own companies we get cheaper workers. So whats not to love, right? Except maybe you didnt go to a university and wanted to work with your hands and found that you cant get a job because all the companies are hiring cheap illegal alien workers. Or your truck got hit by an uninsured illegal. Or your daughter got killed by an illegal who should have been deported. Well, if you have concerns about these things, clearly youre a racist.
And our response to their massive law breaking is Well, we cant possibly enforce the law! [clutches pearls tightly] Why, that would be mean! Do you think that when some red state Republican voter breaks the law he gets a pass? You think the IRS isnt going to empty his bank account to pay overdue taxes because he carries a sign reading I didnt cross the tax code; the tax code crossed me! We cant deport an illegal because his family, that shouldnt even be here, might be sad, but do you think anyone working for Uncle Sucker gives a half damn about an Americans family if he steps out of line? Our response to the legitimate grievances of the people we counted on in this election was to call them stupid and racist and people are surprised they flocked to the one guy who listened to them?
We love fair trade. But what about the guy whose job that he support his family with gets outsourced because of NAFTA? What are we supposed to tell him? That in aggregate fair trade is beneficial? Yeah, but what if youre not in the aggregate? I dont know the answer, but I do know that so far we've been telling him Suck it up cuz youre obsolete. Go retrain on computers, dummy. Yet were stunned that our voters have failed to embrace our innovative two-prong approach of ignoring their grievances while heaping abuse upon them?
And let's talk about wars. Generally, its our base that fights wars and we havent won one on the ground since Desert Storm. Our base doesnt mind fighting for a cause, but if we're not as dedicated as they are, if we can't even commit to win when they commit to doing the dying, why are we shocked when instead of answering the call for the umpteenth time they let it go to voicemail? And the stuff about NATO and Trump you know, our voters are not blind. If our allies were doing their fair share, his criticisms wouldn't resonate.
And did we listen when our base asked the establishment to show some fighting spirit? Or are we driven to effectively vote for Hillary because somebody scandalized out tender sensibilities by using the verb schlonged? Our base demanded someone who wouldnt be intimidated, who would fight. Instead, the establishment was dead set on dumping a steaming pile of Jeb on our collective lawn, the same durrwood you can watch on YouTube hanging a medal around Hillary Clinton's wrinkled neck. That pompous geebo cant even take his own damn side in a fight; why is anyone shocked that our voters saw he would never take theirs?
So what have we learned about ourselves? Maybe that many of us are snobs. There's a lot of class warfare going on here, a lot of backroom snark, with a lot of conservatives who want to believe that the only people who could ever support Donald Trump are knuckle-dragging morons who can't cut it when it comes to anything besides digging ditches. Too many of us choose cultural solidarity with the liberals we live among over political solidarity with the people we expected to vote with us.
Gosh, we tell ourselves. These people cant even see whats in their own best interest. Except maybe they dont like what they see. Maybe its because they decided we arent worth listening to. Maybe they dont like us conservatives. And maybe we better figure out how to fix that instead of whining.
I agree on your post #9.
Or Paul Ryan who arrogantly calls himself a conservative while working hand-in-glove with democrats to push the liberal/leftist agenda forward.
Remember his last campaign when he promised to take control of the budget process and curb spending?
and now this:
Paul Ryan: "Amnesty is Not Amnesty Because You Pay a Fine"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3455133/posts
To paraphrase Reagan, “I didn’t leave the Conservative movement; the Conservative movement left me.”
Nationalist now. Proud of it.
Ignored or exposed ?
I dunno, Miss M. Antennae telling me that Never Trumper conviction levels a mile wide, and an inch deep. This whole business of cuck labelling is a doomsday weapon because these people live and die on perception. Michelle Fields thought being a victim would lift her profile. She sold 42 (?) books in the first two weeks after release. Glenn Beck is a leper now. Megyn Kelly, Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan ... Never Trump only works if its principled, or perceived to be principled. Yet none of them are principled.
Now Paul Ryan sees an opening for himself in that role, when it comes back in vogue after (he’s hoping) Trump loses,
You have an interesting perspective. Perhaps what you’re saying is that they’ll jump on the bandwagon to continue having influence and to sell books?
I think Sour Kraut will be a holdout.
I agree completely.
BOTH PARTIES have been busy selling out American businesses for more than the entire last generation.
Everyone. Trump is saying it is time to be for America once again.
I wholeheartedly support him. 100%.
It is about time, someone said we need to support America once again.
Krauthammer did not vote for Obama in either of Obama’s presidential elections, so that leaves Illinois elections. Which of those did Krauthammer vote Obama into?
“So Conservatives, What Have We Learned From This Trump Thing?”
I learned that American government is corrupt from top to bottom, that “the Rule of Law” means nothing.
I learned that the entire power structure of American society hates Donald Trump and will stop at NOTHING to defeat him.
I learned that even if Trump somehow wins I had better prepare for the coming disaster. The Ruling Class/Media/Bureaucratic Left will NEVER accept a Trump presidency.
To hell with Khan’s father. He put his head out as a political pawn of Hillary and deserves to have it chopped off. This will not affect Trump’s support one bit.
If he does nothing but close the open borders, he will be worth more than all the modern day presidents put together.
He may not be able to build the wall, try as he might, but he WILL enforce immigration laws.
He will put enough guards on the border to stop the tsunami of Hispanics, Isis murderers and other dangerous criminals over our borders.
He WILL stop the tsunami of dangerous Muslim ‘refugees’
(colonists, jihadists) being imported by Obama against our will and distributed all across America until no place in our country is safe anymore.
He WILL make America safe again.
THAT is the most important issue we are facing.
Trump’s biggest gift to the electorate is pulling the curtain back on the ‘wizards’ of the old, ossified GOPe.
Conservative is as conservative does.
Neocons are not conservative - they back liberal causes.
Trump’s policy positions are conservative.
He voted for Obama in ‘08.
A lot of elites aren’t even in the right political stadium. Hey the game’s over here!
They don’t have to jump on the bandwagon. Just hedge their bets with some selective muting, or suddenly discover some merit in the enemies’ argument (like Schlicter has.) Instead of hurling vitriol we should be massaging tender egos and finding common ground online. Flaming suited the primaries, not so much now. These people want to be liked, we should show them the way to be liked. And that includes the lurking Freepers grinding their axes over the way they were treated during the primaries. All are needed, this will go right to the wire. I’m hoping Trump asks every supporter to take a pledge he/she will convince one fence sitter to get on the Train.
Check out the date on that piece...well before he was last re-elected.
This nation was founded by businessmen. Most of our founding fathers were not career politicians. Most were common folk. All dedicated thier treasure and family name towards making a country founded on freedom and liberty.
We don’t need politicians. We need real people, with skin in the game .
Well done!
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