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A pacifist husband and non-lethal self-defense
backwoodshome.com ^ | 7/29/2016 | Claire Wolfe

Posted on 07/31/2016 7:13:56 AM PDT by rktman

An excellent off-topic discussion started in this morning’s “Nevermind” post. It deserves more prominence than it’ll get in comments, so I’m moving it forward here.

LBS wrote:

DH is a pacifist and against all violent methods of self-defense – especially guns. He says I can defend myself, as long as the method couldn’t possibly kill the attacker (yeah, I know what you’re thinking). Do any of you have any ideas what a short, sixtyish, fat cancer survivor could have handy to better the odds? (BTW, murder or divorce are not options. I really love the guy. He’s mostly a great guy, just naive.)

The first several comments below appear under my personal login because I have no way of duplicating the logins of the original writers. But please note that these comments are by RustyGunner, LBS, LarryA, and Pat.

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Thanks Claire Wolfe. Haven't seen much from her lately but maybe because I don't go to Backwoodshome.com very often. Maybe interesting to some on the naivete that is out there in the world. If you have time, give it a read.
1 posted on 07/31/2016 7:13:56 AM PDT by rktman
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A gun. Just shoot ‘em a little.


2 posted on 07/31/2016 7:16:01 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Yes, a shotgun. You can apologize to your husband afterward.

Anyway, he doesn’t sound like the guy who is going to protect you.


3 posted on 07/31/2016 7:17:04 AM PDT by marron
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A set of fast feet. Feet, that can outrun a projectile traveling say, in the access of a thousand feet a second. Other than that, the list gets short.


4 posted on 07/31/2016 7:20:22 AM PDT by sport
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Idealist are loud and proud until reality backs its self up into their own drive way... then it’s... Hang on a minute...


5 posted on 07/31/2016 7:21:27 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: rktman
set phasers to 'stun'


6 posted on 07/31/2016 7:23:36 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Just buy a gun lady. What’s he gonna do? complain? Whine? He’s a GREAT BIG PUSSY, and because he is you can do what you NEED to protect yourself (and his big baby butt) without worrying about the consequences.

CC


7 posted on 07/31/2016 7:25:24 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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Pacifist,,,?

I have problems with Men that
Won’t face
Reality.
The Reality of Protecting Life is one responsibility of being a Man.

Pacifist, No.
Frightened Little Child, yes.


8 posted on 07/31/2016 7:30:01 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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Pacifists call 911 and ask for pacifist police.


9 posted on 07/31/2016 7:34:15 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: marron
There are some non-lethal shotgun rounds, like rubber bullets, a net which deploys from a shot shell, and even a nasty colored smelling ball round.

Of course there is always 'spray foam', but you have to pressurize the cans of foam to a higher than common pressure to get the stuff to shoot a couple of yards.

With a stock cuff, the shotgun could carry a few 'back up' rounds of semi-precious metals in varying sizes and accelerant capacity.

10 posted on 07/31/2016 7:34:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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Someone cutting your throat will turn your other cheek for you.

Some people just born to be victims.


11 posted on 07/31/2016 7:38:17 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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Hit the gym and buy a gun. You’ll feel better, and as he will probably have a nervous breakdown over the gun he might also have a change of heart due to the gym.


12 posted on 07/31/2016 7:40:01 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Proverbs 17:22 A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.)
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IMO, this is not a post that should be mocked (not talking to you, rktman). Pacifist does not equal coward. Pacifist does not equal sissy.

Not all people are the same. A study done after WW II (by US General Sam Marshall) showed that many US soldiers were hesitant to fire on the enemy for moral reasons. These men were not cowards or sissies by any means.

Better that we should actually try to answer the question the article posed. For relatives of mine who will not - or for physical reasons cannot - deal with a gun, I recommend strong doors and Fox pepper spray. I don't mock them.

13 posted on 07/31/2016 7:43:21 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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Simple!
Shotgun + rock salt.
Shotgun + fine bird shot.

After these two fail to stop your attacker, Shotgun + buttstroke.
Next, your are too late to use the buckshot loads.


14 posted on 07/31/2016 7:47:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Agreed. Maybe some super soaker type bear spray would be appropriate for this individual. For him to use that is, not on him. And yes, not everyone is made the same.


15 posted on 07/31/2016 7:47:34 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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I wouldn’t let my pacifist husband boss me around like that. This woman needs to do what she thinks needs to be done and to heck with hubby. Plus, he sounds like a liberal moron, I didn’t think you had those in the backwoods.


16 posted on 07/31/2016 7:52:25 AM PDT by jocon307
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Pacifists come in three flavors...

1. Delusional people who think that if you don’t harm anyone (or anything} they won’t harm you.
2. Guilt ridden, self hating, suicidal imbeciles who have convinced themselves that the world would be much better without them and would be grateful if someone would put them out of their miseries. (BTW - I agree the world would be better without them).
3. Hypocrites, who like to feel morally superior, but gladly call the armed police at the first sign of danger.


17 posted on 07/31/2016 7:56:41 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Leaning Right

If you have Windows, the strength of your door makes very little difference, and I’ve known ideological pacifists who have actually opposed courses in unarmed self-defense. The ones I’ve known have respected positive change though, and do tend to become more accepting as a result.


18 posted on 07/31/2016 7:57:32 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Proverbs 17:22 A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.)
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To: rktman

This is simplicity itself. Carry a gun, and if you feel threatened, kill your attacker. Because what will Mr. Pacifist do? Hit you? It is a lesser version of the adage that “It is better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six.”

If he would threaten to divorce you if you killed someone who intended to kill you, you should know right now that marriage also ends with death, the old “until death do you part” clause.

That you will actually have to *hide* your gun from your husband is a nuisance, because if he finds it, he will either steal it away or disable it in some way. But the discretion of having a “secret” gun should actually encourage you to hide it better and carry it more often.

And to keep spares around. Both gun and ammunition.

He impresses me as a scared person. Someone who relies exclusively on ‘flight’ to protect himself. It must be hellish to live that way.


19 posted on 07/31/2016 8:01:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Call 911, I hear they have great chalk artists.


20 posted on 07/31/2016 8:05:32 AM PDT by umgud (ban muslims, not guns)
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