Posted on 07/24/2016 3:58:58 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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The solution favored among ranchers is infused with a fatalism that nothing will change — government being government, and the cartels always one step ahead — so why bother. But here it goes:
Intensive, round-the-clock patrols along the border are required for a fence or wall to work; otherwise, those determined to cross will always find a way. But, they argue, if you have boots on the ground, you will have no need for anything so beautiful as the Great Wall of Trump.
It is easy, from a distance, to dismiss the ranchers along the border as right-wing Chicken Littles whose complaints hint of racism. Too easy, in fact.
Ranchers will say they saw people with backpacks trekking across their property last week, last night, early this morning. Some will say they have grudging agreements of access with drug cartels, as long as trespassers stay far from their homes. Dogs bark, motion lights flicker, things go missing.
The unnerving has become everyday life, Mr. Ashurst says, and then he asks my colleague and me where we live. Metropolitan New York, we answer.
Nice, Mr. Ashurst says, still scowling. “But how would you like it?” he asks, referring to the ebb-and-flow parade of strangers, some armed, past his door. “Do you think you’re more important than the poor moron who has the misfortune to live along the border?”
True, the overall number of migrants has plummeted in the last 15 years or so. Here, in what the Border Patrol categorizes as the Tucson sector — about 90,000 square miles, with 262 miles of border — there were 63,397 arrests in the 2015 fiscal year, compared with 10 times that in the 2001 fiscal year.
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This ain't rocket science. Build the freakin wall and lay down some deterrents.
Agree but the rubes with bobbing heads on the left will buy the NYT story they always do they are a useless lot.
Neither the great wall of China, nor the other great walls, were built with the idea of keeping out invaders. What they were intended to do was create an obstacle to raiders, quickly riding in, robbing and looting, and fleeing back home before they could be confronted and killed. The walls just slowed them down.
And in this, they worked as intended.
So what will a US wall do? It will *not* stop “all” illegal crossings. But that is not its intent. It will just add an obstacle to crossing, which alone may *reduce* the numbers of illegals crossing.
Right now, illegals move north in corridors. Passable areas without terrain obstacles, and near sources of water and roads. If *just* those corridors are blocked, it may reduce the number of illegals by 60%.
This is *very* cost-effective. But putting fence over land where crossings don’t often happen reduces things even further, perhaps another 15%, taking away the motivation to build roads on the Mexico side to facilitate crossing.
But it costs more, and has less effect, so it is less cost-effective. But 75% fewer illegal aliens are crossing.
The next step has been proposed by Donald Trump. This is to *tax* the money earned in the US which is then wired to Mexico. So Mexico does, in fact, “pay for the wall”.
This is a very good idea, because in effect it lowers the wages of Mexican nationals working in the US, precisely to wire back to Mexico their earnings. This makes working in the US a less attractive proposition.
And it they think they can hand carry it out of the US to Mexico, it will attract attention as being drug proceeds.
The next step is a peculiar one. Non-Mexican foreigners, including terrorists, will pay a premium to get into the US. The way to stop this cold is to offer a *bounty* on them, payable (anonymously) to Mexicans who inform on non-Mexican crossers.
Oddly enough, it does not have to be a great sum of money, and only works if the US catches the illegal non-Mexican crosser. Say $100 for just an ordinary illegal crosser. $500 if they are a “person of interest”, and $1,000 if they are a wanted terrorist or spy.
This is a good enough deal that even the ‘mules’ who would help them across the border would turn around and sell them out. Otherwise, every foreign crosser would be observed by a thousand hungry eyes.
Making our border airtight, at least to non-Mexicans.
The “Trump Wall “ is a methaphorical construct. One element will be strong law enforcement on the American side. A second will be strong effort on thew Mexican side.
The deal might also include an airborne invasion of a cartel village wiping it all out.
There is no free press only the Party propaganda of the left.
Border ranchers have never wanted the wall and that is why we don’t have a wall.
Thermal and motion directed 20mm gun turrets every 1/4 mile will work.
Don’t need a wall. Just two 10’ chain link fences 100 meters apart with warnings (signs and audible/lasers/spots) that between the fences all life is shot to death without regard.
With detection comes 3 levels of warning then she opens up.
Walls work well. These border ranchers must don’t want the wall running across their property. Sorry but it has to be done is my response to them.
I’ve always thought part of the solution is to give Americans a $1,000 for each illegal they turn in from a workplace and then fine the employer $10,000. The other is cut off all welfare bennies to illegals. Alabama did this and the place emptied out overnight til a Federal judge overturned it. Along with building the wall of course.
Mexico has a wall on it’s southern border.
Just trying to figure out which would be easier
to patrol, 90,000 square miles or 262 miles of border.
Duh!
That I am not sure I agree with.
Mu son is a BP Agent in AZ and the ranchers are always welcoming the Agents and assist them, too.
The one’s that don’t want the wall, besides democRATS, liberals, progressives, academia, MSM talking-heads, are the Tohono O’odham indians that help the smugglers.
Most all of these indians are involved in the human/drug smuggling trade and don’t give a darned about protecting the desert eco-system. . .you know., their “sacred land.”
Ranchers want to protect their property from the criminal threat of the smugglers and the damage they inflict on their ranch land.
Please see my Post 109.
The government has a history of doing one thing and then throwing up their hands and saying they have secured the border, nothing else to see here. There is concern that a wall will be built and nothing else, manpower will be cut, etc.
I think Trump is smart enough to know it will take several steps to secure the border and one piece alone will not do it.
And Bush did not.
No sugar, no ants.
Of course.I,for one,would have *no* problem see *our* side of the US/Mexico border "militarized"...a huge,strong wall and thousands and thousands of armed guards with orders to shoot to kill.Obviously the Mexicans would go bananas (as if that was unusual) as would Marxist here and abroad.
But the benefits would far,far,*far* outweigh the drawbacks
...and Bush (nor any other world leader with perhaps the exception of Putin) understands this.
The Religion of Peace is at war with the world.
Excellent suggestions...maybe after Trump is in...?
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