Posted on 07/20/2016 8:42:43 AM PDT by shortstop
Oh, journalists are very well trained. They do exactly what they’re told to do.
Trumps son admitted there is an issue...listen to his Interview before you claim no one used Michelles speech
Looks just stupid enough to be a journalist.
Back in 2008, Michelle Obama was accused of plagerizing lines of her DNC speech from Saul Alinsky's writings. So Michelle did not give an original speech back then. And Michelle never practiced what she preached, talking about the measure of someone giving respect when she doesn't respect our nation or other Americans.
All the Trumps so far have presented themselves extremely well...the MSM must be hating this. Melania was charming - apparently one reporter’s brother tweeted the reporter during her speech and said “that’s it..I’m voting for Trump”. I saw another guy say “If he can get a woman like that I’m voting for him”. Don Jr is fabulous and even Tiffany did well - way better than I’d have done.
One the other side we have traitorous crooked lying Hillary, very homely Chelsea who runs the family slush fund, and the scum pervert who looks like he’s got more than one foot in the grave.
I’d hate to be running against the Trumps!
My third grade teacher, Mrs. Lyons told us about how “The strength of our dreams” would carry us through life. That was in 1958. I’ll bet if you dig around in quote books and sites you’ll find that phrase and simular phrases go back hundreds of years.
“The Audacity of Hope” - Barrack Obama
“The Man From Hope” - Bill Clinton
Uh oh!
When a journalist writes a story it’s always about them. With a reporter it’s about the facts.
I aint buying it. This was all a set up. Some speech writer in the Trump campaign did this on purpose and tipped off the media that it was coming. There is no way you’ll ever convince me that some journalist remembered those cliche’s from Michelle Obama’s speech 8 years ago.
I didn't see/hear the interview - it just strikes me that when some phrases that helve been used by many many folks over the decades, it's a huge jump to call i plagiarism because they show up in similar speeches some years apart. Michelle didn't coin the phrases and any rational person would know they are up for grabs by anyone who has a relevant place to use them.
There hasn’t been a single person on FR that refuses to acknowledge what really happened that has been able to provide me with ANY OTHER instance of these words that Michelle and Melania used
“values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond. And you do what you say”
try to find it. You guys keep claiming these are common phrases. So find someone else who used that exact order of words.
Don’t show me a quote that says your word is your bond. So what. Find the EXACT quote.
Jr admitted it was an issue and blamed the speechwriters.
So give me a link with this order of words- other than Melania and Michelle. Internet has 100s of millions of docs to search.
“values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond. And you do what you say”
Dennis Praeger just read a statement by Melania Trump’s speechwriter. Melania gave the writer some examples of people she admired and that included Michelle Obama. She cribbed notes but never checked the exact content of the earlier speech. The woman offered to resign but Trump did not accept it.
This whole story is a big NOTHING.
He does have a good eye...lol
Well at least people on FR can quite claiming that the speechwriter didn’t use Michelle’s speech.
Glad I was right about that! I knew I was.
So lazy speechwriter work, I guess ,and not treachery against Donald.
Read the LA Times article. It has the speechwriter’s statement. The woman did not check the original speech directly and probably didn’t know what speech the phrases came from.
If anything it was a homage to Michelle Obama. Quentin Tarantino is called a genius for theft far worse than this.
Another interesting factoid is that having some of the same words/phrases that occur naturally in everyday life does not constitute plagiarism - if it was in a published document with appropriate protections, and exactly word for word, then it is plagiarism.From url: https://peripheralsperspective.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/a-mans-word-is-his-bond-or-is-it/ A phrase attributed to Miguel de Cervantes is: “An honest man’s word is as good as his bond.” This was a standard in the early days of our nation. It continues as an innate readiness for many today. Somewhere along the way, Situational Ethics was introduced and accepted as a reasonable lifestyle, and the Philosophy that the end justifies the means was embraced. This is a very old phrase dating back and attributed to “The Greek playwright Sophocles who wrote in Electra (c 409 B.C.), ‘The end excuses any evil,’ a thought later rendered by the Roman poet Ovid as ‘The result justifies the deed’ in ‘Heroides’ (c. 10 B.C.).” [From “Wise Words and Wives’ Tales: The Origins, Meanings and Time-Honored Wisdom of Proverbs and Folk Sayings Olde and New” by Stuart Flexner and Doris Flexner, Avon Books, New York, 1993].
From a Moody Blues song (and other sources if one wants to look:
Say what you mean, mean what you say There's a "Strength of your Dreams" book out from 1998.
Moot point since a speech writer just accepted blame for the quotes and offered to resign - Trump said "No" to the resignation offer.
Many trying to make so much hash out of a teaspoon of hamburger and a quarter onion that it's insane.
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