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Rocky opening for GOP convention as Cruz forces clash with team Trump
Fox News ^ | 18 July, 2016 | Foxnews.com

Posted on 07/18/2016 11:31:41 AM PDT by Magnatron

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To: Fantasywriter

It didn’t. And?


141 posted on 07/18/2016 8:27:02 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Have you vetted Cruz at all? If so, how is it you’re unfamiliar with the evidence that has surfaced? Hint: it has to do with voting records.


142 posted on 07/18/2016 8:27:13 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Are you thick, or only pretending to be?


143 posted on 07/18/2016 8:28:25 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m not pretending that an American citizen at birth can’t be a Canadian citizen too. Are you?


144 posted on 07/18/2016 8:44:00 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Fantasywriter
Hint: it has to do with voting records.

Hint: no one posted voting records.

145 posted on 07/18/2016 8:44:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You need to reread post 125. It answers your question.


146 posted on 07/18/2016 8:51:11 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
I read it.

I agree, he's a natural born citizen. Thanks for the heads up.

147 posted on 07/18/2016 8:55:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I could, at this very moment, post a link to the FACT that Cruz’ mother appeared on an official voter registration list that includes only Canadian citizens legally entitled to vote.

My question is, why should I have to? Why have you not vetted your own candidate yourself?


148 posted on 07/18/2016 8:57:40 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
I could, at this very moment, post a link to the FACT that Cruz’ mother appeared on an official voter registration list that includes only Canadian citizens legally entitled to vote.

Go ahead. Or don't.

149 posted on 07/18/2016 9:05:16 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’d be ashamed to admit I hadn’t vetted my own candidate.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/ted-cruz-mother-canadian-voter-list


150 posted on 07/18/2016 9:15:18 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Nice link! So an American can move to Canada, become a citizen and vote.

The process probably takes a couple of weeks. Good to know, in case Hillary somehow cheats her way into office.

Wait, it looks like there is a link at your link.

Then late Friday afternoon, Breitbart.com published an article

"Eleanor was never a citizen of Canada, and she could not have been under the facts or the law. In short, she did not live in Canada long enough to be a Canadian citizen by the time Cruz was born in 1970: Canadian law required 5 years of permanent residence, and she moved to Canada in December 1967—only 3 years before Senator Cruz’s birth.”

Darn it, it took 5 years to become a citizen.

Thanks for trying to prove your claim.

151 posted on 07/19/2016 4:33:21 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Magnatron

Delegate freedom means voter disenfranchisement.

I DID NOT VOTE FOR A DELEGATE, I VOTED FOR TRUMP.

The delegate is just the (extremely flawed) mechanism for transmitting my vote to the convention floor.

DELEGATES ARE SWORN MESSENGERS, NOT FREE ACTORS.


152 posted on 07/19/2016 4:34:59 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: Jim Noble
Jim Noble wrote:

"This story was written a week ago. It bears no relation to reality."

Actually, it was rather prescient. The article came out earlier in the day and just a few hours later, the GOPe'rs staged their temper tantrum on the floor.

153 posted on 07/19/2016 5:55:38 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Cruz, being born in Canada, was a citizen at birth. Eleanor appears on voter a carefully multi-vetted voter registration list restricted to verified Canadian citizens. There is one condition that allows a person to nationalize in Canada in One Year. The condition could ***EASILY*** apply to Eleanor Cruz. Indeed, it is the ONLY realistic explanation for her name appearing on a list confined to Canadian citizens only.

Surely you know to what condition I refer.


154 posted on 07/19/2016 6:38:02 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Eleanor appears on voter a carefully multi-vetted voter registration list restricted to verified Canadian citizens.

Yes, a 1974 list and residence from 1967 is certain proof of her citizenship in 1970. Oh...wait...no it isn't.

155 posted on 07/19/2016 6:43:43 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

And btw, it does you no credit to completely ignore Eleanor’s name being included in a list of Canadian citizens. You’re not even pretending to seek the truth. You’re merely grasping at straws to blindly support your Cruz thesis. Or if not, then do this. Cut and paste Breitbart’s explanation as to how Ted’s mother got registered as a Canadian citizen.

I’ll wait.


156 posted on 07/19/2016 6:43:52 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The list was compiled in the early seventies and *published* in ‘74. And it must scare the Cruz camp witless, because they deny Eleanor was EVER a Canadian citizen.

If your version of the story is true, Ted would have unsealed his consular file. That would have answered all questions officially, and put the matter to rest.

But Cruz has not and will never unseal his consular file. It doesn’t validate his story one iota.


157 posted on 07/19/2016 6:53:54 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
The list was compiled in the early seventies and *published* in ‘74.

Cool. What does a list published in 1974 prove about citizenship in 1970?

I read that she moved to Canada in 1967. Have you read differently?

I read that Canadian residency for 5 years was required to get Canadian citizenship. Have you read differently?

158 posted on 07/19/2016 8:04:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Fantasywriter
ignore Eleanor’s name being included in a list of Canadian citizens.

Maybe she was a Canadian citizen in 1974. Maybe she was a Cuban citizen in 1980. Maybe she was a Chinese citizen in 1985. We'll never know if she was an Iranian citizen in 1999.

The important issue is was she an American citizen in 1970.

I await your proof to the contrary.

159 posted on 07/19/2016 8:07:28 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

As I mentioned before, there is one circumstance under which a person can become a Canadian citizen in one year. Interestingly, this one circumstance could well apply to Eleanor. The reason we don’t know the exact details is because Ted won’t unseal the files. If the consular files verified his version of the story they’d be unsealed. If the consular files devastate Ted’s story, they’ll be kept out of public sight indefinitely.

It is Barack Obama 2.0. All questions could be quickly and easily resolved with Cruz’ cooperation, just as Obama could have answered the many questions his fragmented record posed. The exact same reason in both cases will keep the relevant documents sealed for as long as Obama and Cruz, respectively, can manage it.

Btw, your defense of Cruz is IDENTICAL to Obots’ defense of Obama. With all critical information sealed away from public access, Obots consistently demanded, ‘Prove there’s anything amiss with Obama’s records/circumstances!’

It’s a ridiculous demand. As long as Obama/Cruz get away with concealing all relevant documents, the only thing proven is that they both have something to hide.


160 posted on 07/19/2016 11:26:54 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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