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To: outpostinmass2

I am a naysayer on this. Cops need to be respectful of all citizenry. The problem today are cops wanting to be overbearing, overwhelming, militarized, etc. They are no long engaging and working with citizens. We’ve seen this change over long period of time. Further, they show the worst of our interaction in communities, the bad apples tar the rest. If cops would out their bad colleagues, they might get more respect than just circling the wagon, regardless of the fault. We see them fight video taping, prefer obscurity to do what they often want, then deny it. That is the problem. If cops would be honest, would be respectful, they’d fair better. Are they doing too much? Maybe they might get off the speed traps and out of Dunkin Donuts and walk around and meet the people. Flame me...


9 posted on 07/11/2016 2:05:04 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Like herpes, Lyn' Ted and his supporters can always flare up again.)
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To: Reno89519

I am a naysayer on this. Cops need to be respectful of all citizenry. The problem today are cops wanting to be overbearing, overwhelming, militarized, etc. They are no long engaging and working with citizens.


I completely disagree with you on this and I say this because I have many cops in my family and friends. None of them resemble your remarks. If that is all you know then you don’t know many cops.


19 posted on 07/11/2016 2:11:30 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Reno89519
I'm not fan of cops in general, and have come to view them as a last resort - that said, Chief Brown has a good point. Police are supposed to be handling the exceptional cases, and what is going on is that what once was exceptional is now the norm., and they are expected to be respectful to so downright ornery people. That is not right.

At any rate, consider yourself flamed. I've had a few hundred interactions with cops, maybe 20 or so when I was a "suspect" of sorts, and have yet to be wronged. I've dealt with cranky cops too. Not fun, but never escalated to force.

20 posted on 07/11/2016 2:11:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Reno89519

I agree with you wholeheartedly. No flames from me.
I hear the refrain, even from Rush this morning ,that we should respect the police. I will show respect to the police when that respect is also shown to me.
I have been involved in incidents with the police in which they should complete disrespect to me and the people I was with. In one incident, I was actually fearful that the police were going to assault my husband. We are both professionals with no criminal record.
My opinion of the policehas been at an all time low for the past 4 years.
I think the police in the past were always hassling the low income , black communities. But then they started targeting everyone. People who live in upper middle class to wealthy neighborhoods. We are all seeing what abuse of police power is like, and we do not like what we see.


21 posted on 07/11/2016 2:15:00 PM PDT by kaila
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To: Reno89519

Well one task I should be so bold to suggest would be to stop shooting people’s pets as a method of intimidation at a scene. Another would be no more no-knock warrants being carried out at 2:00am.


22 posted on 07/11/2016 2:29:06 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Reno89519

Re post #9: I agree that cops have a certain arrogance that they need to temper, but it’s not THE problem.

A much bigger problem is that over the last 50 years or so blacks, and to a lesser degree whites, have done a very poor job of parenting, educating their children, and teaching family values.

In the short term, the situation could be MUCH improved if blacks and others would admit the truth about Trevon Martin and Michael Brown. Their deaths had nothing to do with their race. They died because they attacked men who had guns.


36 posted on 07/11/2016 3:16:27 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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