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Here's the weapon used by the Dallas shooter
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| 10 July 2016
| Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin
Posted on 07/10/2016 11:58:18 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Here's a pic of the weapon used by the shooter in Dallas. Post-explosion photo of Saiga A-74 7.62x39mm?
TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dallas; micah; shooter; weapon
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To: sockmonkey
He looks good. That’s a shame.
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posted on
07/10/2016 1:34:36 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
To: COBOL2Java
He looks good.. Now he can go back to passing out sunday school leaflets at the soup kitchen///SARC
To: gop4lyf
His last thoughts: “What’s with the f#@$%@^ racist robot?”
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posted on
07/10/2016 1:37:35 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
To: Jan_Sobieski
You start with an assumption that he was a trained sniper. I doubt that. Certainly, a trained sniper could have done the job, but many others could have done it as well. You do not need to be a trained sniper to accomplish this crime at the ranges involved and the time available. As an Engineer, he received Basic Rifle Marksmanship in Basic Training. He probably had additional training before he deployed to Afghanistan. That training may or may not have been sufficient, but we don’t know what additional practice/training he did.
Speculation like this will not lead to a conclusion that there were multiple shooters. Evidence will lead to that and according to the Governor, the Mayor, and the Police Chief, such evidence has not yet been found.
To: Jan_Sobieski
Ever fire an AK74? The 5.45 round is very gentle in recoil and it is very easy to keep the rifle on target. They must shoot like a dream in full auto. I much prefer it to the 7.62 AK, and between the two it would absolutely be my choice for relatively rapid, moderate distance shooting. Put a good optic on it and anyone can be “accurate enough” with it. That’s the thing people miss when they get all wrapped up in the AR’s inherent accuracy advantage over the AK—the AK is plenty accurate for combat. Also, IIRC, many of the Dallas cops were returning fire with pistols, which would basically leave them as sitting ducks for someone with cover and a rifle. The guy was no sniper; he was basically plinking away at opponents who posed no real threat of effective return fire. Cops at a protest that had the potential to go bad should have been armed with carbines, not handguns, and they should have sought cover before attempting to engage the shooter. I rant and rave about militarized police, but an AR15 today is about the same as grandpa’s 30-30 70 years ago. It’s the everyman rifle. Hell, save some money and equip police with AK74s. They can ride around in squad cars forever and still run when needed.
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posted on
07/10/2016 1:46:06 PM PDT
by
Trod Upon
(Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
To: Jan_Sobieski
IMHO, this wasn’t a sniper situation, it was simply an ambush.
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posted on
07/10/2016 1:49:00 PM PDT
by
DJ Taylor
(Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
To: Trod Upon
Yes, fired both. Texas cops are well trained. I just find it hard to believe that the presumably untrained PFC was alone...
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posted on
07/10/2016 1:51:02 PM PDT
by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: Trod Upon
>>>> Hell, save some money and equip police with AK74s. They can ride around in squad cars forever and still run when needed. <<<<
That makes sense.
If a target (a bad guy, needing to be shot) is out of reasonable, 30-30 like range (say, a 100 yards?) then bring in the bull barrel Remington Model 700 in .308
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posted on
07/10/2016 1:51:45 PM PDT
by
7MMmag
( ...itty-bitty hole goin' in, big hole goin' out. bullets that spin and explode sold separately)
To: centurion316
Agree. It was also reported (no link, sorry) somewhere that he’d been doing further training at some black gym/gun/martial arts club.
I would be surprised if he could have pulled this off without additional practice after leaving the army. It’s been well over a year since he got out. His skills and focus seemed fresh.
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posted on
07/10/2016 2:11:39 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; All
Why is there no debris on the weapon? No dust, drywall, ceiling material? Looks like someone just laid it on the floor.
To: 1FreeAmerican
Call the DPD and ask them.
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posted on
07/10/2016 2:19:29 PM PDT
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: sauropod
35+ years in the martial arts has taught me a number of things. One of them is this truism: a patient man is a dangerous man. I’ve seen tht thought conveyed a number of different ways depending on who is saying it. Both Sun Tzu and Miyamato Mushashi say similar things, though perhaps more poetically than I have put it.
To: Jan_Sobieski
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Could a PFC Combat Engineer, kicked out of the military for sexual misconduct, become a trained sniper able to take out 11 Dallas cops?"
There are two general kinds of combat engineers--the combat kind and the construction kind. The murderer was one of the construction kind. His specialty was that of doing carpentry and masonry work.
The combat type does frequent combat drills, while the construction type does building tasks.
To answer your question, anyone can be trained to ambush others or train themselves to ambush others. Anyone can also acquire weapons with which to to do. But those who do so by way of strong emotions like hatred and vanity are generally not as effective.
Something even more important here. Criminal minds do not consider the consequences of their evil deeds. That's one characteristic that distinguishes the minds of criminals from the minds of moral people.
Dallas gunman Micah Johnson honed tactics at local combat school
The school was a civilian commercial business, by the way--civilian meaning
not military.
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posted on
07/10/2016 2:46:36 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Looks like an AK-74 5.45×39mm.
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posted on
07/10/2016 2:47:07 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("It's okay to commit felonies as long as breaking the law isn't your primary objective." James Comey)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Here's another difference between combat "heavies" (actually construction engineers) and the lighter kind (combat engineers who mostly do infantry combat work). Combat engineers who specialize in combat are processed through an extensive, expensive background check and go through a rather brutal 13-week one-station unit initial training. They are more often trained around the clock for combat fatigue simulation. Many are weeded out early on through their own suicide attempts and stress fractures. Graduates of that initial training are far less likely to go crazy under stress than nearly anyone else in any kind of security duty, military or civilian.
Combat heavies (construction engineers, various MOSes including Johnson's MOS) train mostly to do construction-related jobs. Although they go through the fairly rigorous 8 weeks of basic training that most Army recruits attend, it's not nearly as mentally or physically difficult as the training for the MOS of combat engineer (combat type--sappers).
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posted on
07/10/2016 3:12:43 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bottom photo looks like my AK 74 with an Israeli front and rear. Top photo of supposed perp’s weapon looks like an AK 47.
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posted on
07/10/2016 3:19:04 PM PDT
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
To: plain talk
Yeah, it looks like they erred on the side of BOOM!
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posted on
07/10/2016 3:29:54 PM PDT
by
PLMerite
(Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
To: Iron Munro
“The suspect said” alot after robocop got him, didn’t he?
Is it too tin foily to say suspect said nothing after the big boom?
To: Stentor
AK fires the same round as the SKS. 5.45x39 which he fired is closer to 5.56. Neither here nor there anyhow.
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posted on
07/10/2016 3:35:29 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
To: sockmonkey
From the comments at the site:
#BlackLivesSplattered
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posted on
07/10/2016 3:37:50 PM PDT
by
PLMerite
(Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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