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Stung by defeats, Democrats shift strategy on gun control
StarTribune.com ^ | 6/27/16 | By Maya Rao Star Tribune

Posted on 06/27/2016 7:57:10 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

Congressional Democrats increasingly frustrated by a string of defeats on gun issues in Washington are scrambling to harness a public outpouring after last week’s sit-in protest on the House floor.

Party leaders are urging members to conduct similar sit-ins around the country as they try to sustain the flash of hard-core activism on the gun issue.

“We don’t have the numbers to get things done, so we have to turn to more dramatic displays to galvanize the public so they can help us pressure the Republicans to do what’s right,” said U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.

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To: RoseofTexas
The only time evil was defeated was the day Jesus was crucified on the cross..

Evil abounded that day but a few days later when he defeated death and arose, that was the defeat of evil.

42 posted on 06/27/2016 8:40:12 PM PDT by Bullish (Blame others for your failures? Take credits where none are do? Who made you Pharoh?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I always confuse John Lewis with Elijah Cummings.

Both bald and very angry looking black men.

And NO "they" don't all look alike.

Just the eternal scowl that makes these particular two guys resemble each other.

43 posted on 06/27/2016 8:48:54 PM PDT by boop (Where IS Hillary?)
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To: Captain Compassion

Hunger strikes are the answer. Get lots of pity with them.

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Self immolation is the real attention getter, they ought to try that.


44 posted on 06/27/2016 8:52:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Crooked Hillary's going down and I aint talkin about, on Huma.)
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To: marktwain
"...look like idiots..."? They ARE idiots.
45 posted on 06/27/2016 8:57:34 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Ever wonder why the rats didn’t pass ‘common sense gun control’ when they contrled the house, senate, and presidency. They don’t really want to pass anything...would rather demagogue the issue.


46 posted on 06/27/2016 8:59:44 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

That sure is a bunch of ugly suckers!

CC


47 posted on 06/27/2016 9:11:46 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: rockrr

Agreed.

CC


48 posted on 06/27/2016 9:15:48 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: lacrew

“Ever wonder why the rats didn’t pass ‘common sense gun control’ when they contrled the house, senate, and presidency.”

They had bigger fish to fry, and they remembered 1994.

They did not start pushing on Second Amendment Infringements until President Obama was safely elected to his second term.

He has been the driving force on it ever since.


49 posted on 06/27/2016 9:22:34 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
...so they can help us pressure the Republicans to do what’s right,” said U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn

Like, say, throwing homosexuals off the roofs of hotels, Mr. Muslim ISIS representative?

50 posted on 06/27/2016 9:29:28 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

keith ellison is the enemy Moslem infiltrator in our Congress imho.
anything he wants is IMMEDIATELY SUSPECT

disarming Americans so his fellow Islamics can take over here?

not a chance, go home to your own Krapistan, Keith and leave USA alone!

gee, Minnesota, can’t you do any better than electing this very suspect person!????????


51 posted on 06/27/2016 9:49:56 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

This is starting to scare the hell out of me. I see the time rapidly approaching when Americans are going to have to exercise their Second Amendment rights, responsibilities and duties. The commie ‘RATS really do need to knock off the bull****. A lot of people are going to die for their communist agenda. Hopefully, most law enforcement types will tell the ‘RAT politicians that if they want the guns, they can go get them themselves. Pray for America.


52 posted on 06/27/2016 10:05:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Rise up America! This country can't take eight more years of Marxism and Socialism.)
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To: All
Crybabies
53 posted on 06/27/2016 10:26:33 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Lurker

Agreed. And I’m not real particular.


54 posted on 06/27/2016 10:37:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo


55 posted on 06/27/2016 10:51:59 PM PDT by lewislynn (Ryan is the other half of the reason Romney got creamed by a negro with a Nobel)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

January 24th, 2018: Her left arm still in a sling from the “attempted assassination” attempt, President Hillary Clinton signed the “Weapons of War” gun control bill that outlawed possession of so called “Assault Guns”. Standing behind her, Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Durban and Boxer, all wore smiles that conveyed great joy at this event.
“This is a great day in American history, today we begin to rid our country of these weapons of war that have no business in the hands of our citizens. This will bring safety to our streets and save many lives” President Clinton said as she signed this bill.
Written just days after the new Congress began in January, this bill was the result of the attack that occurred the Friday before the November elections. Pundits say the Tuesday turnout was larger than expected and the resulting votes gave President Clinton such a majority in Congress that this was inevitable.
The law gave owners of these weapons 30 days to turn them in with all magazines that hold more than 4 rounds. Penalties for possession after the 30 days were draconian; 5 years for possession of the weapons, 3 year for the magazines.
February 28: Federal officials can offer no reason for the extremely small number of “weapons of war” that have been turned in since the law became effective. Some estimates are less than 5000 have been turned in. Local ATF officials in New York, along with those in Massachusetts, Connecticut, refuse to discuss the numbers.
March 15: The first raids on known owners of “weapons of war” started on this date. Apparently thinking it would be best to start in states that already had strict gun laws, Federal agents, along with some local LEO conducted “no-knock” raids during early morning hours. Results were pretty much what was expected on one side of this argument and surprising to the other side. 100 raids conducted; 55 male citizens killed, 42 female citizens killed, 13 males between the ages of 13 and 18 killed, 4 females of same age group. (Dogs killed were not counted….) 30 male citizens wounded and arrested, 15 others arrested. 33 females wounded, 25 other arrested. Unknown number of children of all ages “taken” by state agencies.
4 ATF agents wounded, one by his fellow agents. None were serious. Government claimed to have “recovered” 178 “weapons of war” and numerous high capacity magazines. The government announced a 30 day “pause” in additional raids while people reconsidered their stand on the issue and turned weapons in.
Numerous pro-gun agencies and individuals tried to make comments on this, but few news agencies would air the statements.
April 12: Three days before the “pause” was to end, coordinated attacks were undertaken on ATF offices in the three states where the first raids occurred. 35 ATF agents were shot and killed, and additional 53 were taken to public locations and hung for “crimes against the United States”. Internet websites were inundated with information files taken from the ATF offices, much of it showing illegal activities and “doctored” crime reports used by the government in pursuit of the “weapons of war” legislation. Emails were showed communication between the ATF leadership and DOJ, DHS, and White House officials stating that “harsh” methods were to be used to collect weapons. Some emails indicated that while some of these methods might be considered unconstitutional, pardons were already being prepared, only names had to be entered if such became known.
April 15: Internet service became very sporadic this day, particularly for conservative/pro-gun/sports stores sites. No one would admit it, but many suspected the government even though hacking was blamed.
April 16: 80% of ATF offices in 14 states (mostly southern, but 3 west of Texas) were raided by citizens, their files being taken, copied and posted on the Internet when possible. Again, these files repeated instructions from early files raids. Those ATF agents were given 24 hours to leave said states. 90% did, while it appears the remaining 10% decided to stay where they were because they disagreed with the government.
April 18: Despite the raids disclosing their plans, intentions and ideas, the ATF, DOJ, DHS and the White House decided to conduct more raids; these in 4 of the southern states that kicked out the ATF. The plan was to fly in, debark into waiting vehicles for the raids, take the weapons, take prisoners when possible and leave the rest dead and a warning that the government meant business. Apparently they never considered that some of those ATF agents that left those states did so only to stay “connected” with the ATF. For the government, it was a disaster. Out of 120 raid teams, only 2 made it off the airfields they landed at. And those 2 were met by over 250 people at each site they intended to raid. Over 1100 ATF and DHS agents did not make a flight back home. Local state governments went public with their outrage at these raids. The media and the government for the most part paid no attention to them. They decried the loss of life from the so called gun culture and again called for “True Americans” to obey the law and turn in these weapons.
Washington D.C. was under martial law, but that was mostly enforced by civilian officials as the military had privately told both sides they were staying out of this fight.
April 20: The media announces that President Clinton will make a nationwide address to tonight at 8 PM and all networks will carry it. Speculation runs wild as to what she might say…….

It ain’t going to happen this way, but one could see an outcome along these lines if things don’t stop. It isn’t the American people that are to blame. Washington and its’ policies to “subjugate” the American people are the primary cause. “Do as we tell you, not as we do” seems to be the attitude of all of those in D.C.


56 posted on 06/27/2016 10:56:13 PM PDT by rustyboots
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To: JBW1949

I also have laugh as they one the most inarticulate spokesman in Congress.....John Lewis. He talks as if he has marbles in his mouth.


57 posted on 06/27/2016 11:30:37 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Stung by defeat after defeat after defeat - yet they persist.

And we wonder why they have been able to do so much damage. They have stamina and determination and we tend to sit on our thumbs and complain about the lumpy seat.

58 posted on 06/28/2016 4:31:05 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

the purpose of the gun control exercise was to attempt to harness public opinion to raise money and get votes.

the exercise was pure theater that based on recent increases of reported gun sales is pretty much ineffective.

the exercise was doomed farce

their problem is they have nothing and nobody


59 posted on 06/28/2016 4:35:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: butlerweave

lewis the bald headed lemon salesman


60 posted on 06/28/2016 4:36:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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