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In Voisine v. US, SCOTUS just ruled people convicted of domestic violence can't buy guns
AOL ^ | June 27, 2016 | Marie Solis

Posted on 06/27/2016 9:17:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

On Monday, in the case of Voisine v. the United States, the United States Supreme Court handed down a decision that prohibits people convicted of domestic violence from purchasing guns in a 6-2 vote, according to SCOTUSBlog.

This was the case of two Maine men who were convicted on state domestic violence charges and then found with firearms and charged with violating a federal law that prohibits domestic abusers from having firearms," reads the live blog. "The question was whether their convictions qualified under the statute."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2a; abortion; banglist; deathpanels; guncontrol; obamacare; plannedparenthood; scotus; stemexpress; zerocare
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To: Mr. Mojo

The conclusion of the opinion:

“The federal ban on firearms possession applies to any person with a prior misdemeanor conviction for the “use . . . of physical force” against a domestic relation. §921(a)(33)(A). That language, naturally read, encompasses acts of force undertaken recklessly—i.e., with conscious disregard of a substantial risk of harm. And the state-law backdrop to that provision, which included misdemeanor assault statutes covering reckless conduct in a significant majority of jurisdictions, indicates that Congress meant just what it said. Each petitioner’s possession of a gun, following a conviction under Maine law for abusing a domestic partner, therefore violates §922(g)(9). We accordingly affirm the judgment of the Court of Appeals. It is so ordered.”

Dissenters were Justices Thomas and Sotomayor


21 posted on 06/27/2016 9:52:42 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
“the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.”

---Justice Antonin Scalia

22 posted on 06/27/2016 9:53:41 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I have mixed feelings about this case. It is so easy to go through life without being convicted of domestic violence. If things start getting that weird in your marriage, just leave. Forget about who is right and who is wrong. Just leave and work things out later.


23 posted on 06/27/2016 9:56:52 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Cboldt

Give me a break.


24 posted on 06/27/2016 9:59:21 AM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

A woman walks up and sits down by a guy at the bar and says “I’ve never seen you around here before.”

The guy says “No, you haven’t. I’ve been in prison.”

The woman asks “What did you do?”

“I took an axe and chopped my wife up into little pieces.”

The woman says “Oh, then you’re single.”


25 posted on 06/27/2016 10:18:19 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Mr. Mojo

Hey! If felons can vote, then they certainly can buy and own guns.


26 posted on 06/27/2016 10:18:21 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Weird, too. The most conservative and most liberal court members were the sole dissenters.


27 posted on 06/27/2016 10:30:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper ((Just say no to HRC))
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To: Kickass Conservative

But felons in VA can vote and buy guns


28 posted on 06/27/2016 10:32:29 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Don't argue with a Liberal. Ask him simple questions and listen to him stut)
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To: SoFloFreeper; BuckeyeTexan
Weird, too. The most conservative and most liberal court members were the sole dissenters.

Yes, a weird lineup. Alito voted with the majority.

29 posted on 06/27/2016 10:35:53 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: sailor76
What other rights should the gov be able to strip from you? The 4th, the 5th?

The 4th was decimated decades ago, thanks to the drug war (and with much support from some Freepers).

30 posted on 06/27/2016 10:44:13 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Cboldt; sailor76
>> -- What other rights should the gov be able to strip from you? The 4th, the 5th? --
>
> It depends who you are, and exactly what it is that you prpose to undertake.

No it doesn't; the preamble to the Bill of Rights says clearly what the purpose of the Bill of Rights is:

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
The whole purpose is to restrain the government; if we were to let the government ignore those restrictions at it pleases then there is nothing to stop the government from enacting tyranny. — IOW, what you are conditionally agreeing to is the polar opposite of the intent of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
31 posted on 06/27/2016 10:58:58 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Kickass Conservative
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", not

Shall not be infringed, as long as you have a background check, or are mentally stable, or not on a no-fly list.

Shame on FFL Dealers for making $$$ hand over fist while pissing all over the Constitution. Shame on us for allowing it to happen.

32 posted on 06/27/2016 11:13:45 AM PDT by dware (You called down the thunder, well now you got it!)
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To: StormEye

Exactly. People are already charged with assault for throwing a french fry at someone. And they believe anything the woman says.


33 posted on 06/27/2016 11:27:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: firebrand

How can that stand? Snowflakes and vindictive people run around getting restraining orders all the time.


34 posted on 06/27/2016 11:30:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Tau Food

That’s good advice. Also, it may cause people to just never bother getting married, which helps the left’s goal to breakdown the family.


35 posted on 06/27/2016 11:34:16 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Edward.Fish
-- IOW, what you are conditionally agreeing to is the polar opposite of the intent of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. --

I'm not agreeing to it, I'm merely observing what it is. The government breaks the constitutional pact with impunity, and uses hand-waving as a front.

The government already ignores the restrictions, while claiming to be abiding by them. The same words are used to justify deliberately unequal application of the law (elites get away with things the serfs and peons are jailed for), and outright violation of the principles embodied in the Constitution. The government snoops at will, without warrant, and if it needs to justify it, it will try. worst that happens if it fails to justify it is the court tosses the evidence.

36 posted on 06/27/2016 11:43:36 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Rusty0604
Well, you're right to point out that people should not get married if they believe that It will cause them to resort to violence. I am very happy to have a peaceful marriage and I want nothing to do with any other kind. I just cannot imagine how anybody can tolerate living in a violent home.

Who wants to sleep with one eye open all the time? :)

37 posted on 06/27/2016 11:49:12 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Where is the asterisk, *if they are convicted Felons?

Thanks to the Lautenberg Amendment and this SCOTUS decision, you now lose your Second Amendment rights on a misdemeanor Domestic Abuse conviction.

38 posted on 06/27/2016 12:21:26 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Tau Food

It’s not so much that they think they would resort to violence, but the fear that their spouse may sometime down the line may want out of the marriage and just accuse them of it.
Too bad so many people these days are selfish and don’t have good marriages such as yours.


39 posted on 06/27/2016 12:22:42 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Well, then, you have another good idea. People should not marry themselves to people who might concoct false claims of violence. There is no risk that my wife would do that. If she were to want a divorce, she could have one.

This home is not a prison. ;-)

40 posted on 06/27/2016 12:30:46 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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