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To: DiogenesLamp; BroJoeK; rockrr
So what you're saying is, you were taught a simplistic version of the Civil War in grade school, saw things were more complicated when you got to high school, and then picked up another simplistic version of the Civil War and what it was about later. A lot of us went through that. But we came to see through those oversimplified Lost Cause myths and don't torment people with them any more.

I don't have the time or the energy to retell how I came to see through neoconfederate mythology, and in any case, it's obvious from your posts that you're not ready. You're too resentful of some supposed Yankee elite that you blame for everything that went wrong, too unwilling to see the differences between how things were in different historical epochs and too quick to see things in extreme terms.

So, for example, you jump to the conclusion that Northerners "*hated* [African-Americans], probably more so than did Southern whites" rather than seeing how complex things could be in both the North and the South. It has to be a simplistic win-lose with you. You see instances of Northern racism and make them the rule, while ignoring or minimizing Southern racism.

Blacks and Whites could live together in Northern cities, with some friction to be sure, but there was coexistence. I wouldn't know how to generalize, but I certainly wouldn't say the condition of African-Americans or White attitudes towards people of color were worse in the North than in the South.

Your talk of "globalism" in the 1860s is also out of place. It suggests that you really don't know what you're talking about. Objections to Soros or Gates or Buffett today, aren't just about they're being rich. There is a whole sense of "globalism" that you ignore in your haste to make a crude smear.

713 posted on 07/19/2016 2:03:42 PM PDT by x
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To: x; DiogenesLamp; rockrr
x to DiogenesLamp: "So what you're saying is, you were taught a simplistic version of the Civil War in grade school, saw things were more complicated when you got to high school, and then picked up another simplistic version of the Civil War and what it was about later."

Thanks for a great post, you hit that nail on its head.

768 posted on 07/23/2016 9:32:26 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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