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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp; rustbucket; PeaRidge; x; rockrr
Sorry, but the "delusions" are all yours.

The fact is, you don't know your own history, and that's what makes your own posts so "bizarre".

You just know well enough to get out of your on way, do you?

Firstly, there is NOTHING more bizarre and delusional than your utterly insane Alinsky-ite characterization that myself and DiogenesLamp are, "Marxists/Democrat/Alinksyite posers consumed with Liberal angst."

Secondly, *my* understanding of the newly revealed "history" is the truth as opposed to the traditionally-indoctrinated/fabricated myths, "Da North fought ovah slavery" meme; "Lincoln saved da Union."; "Da South started a YUGE war at Charleston."

You can keep on created red herrings all you want; You can keep on failing to answer the devastating detailed rebuttals and dynamics forged by DiogenesLamp, Rustbucket, and PeaRidge; You can keep on ignoring the simple principle of the righteous, rightful, and legal personal and State sovereignty issue of the Confederacy...

You and your cohorts have failed to make you case that a coercive blitzkrieg by Lincoln and his cabal of profiteering pirates and vampires that wound up killing 700,000 Americans, maimed hundreds of thousands more, and scorched earth policy upon the South was justifiable, legal, moral, or necessary. PERIOD.

681 posted on 07/17/2016 9:17:44 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: HangUpNow; DiogenesLamp; rockrr; x
HangUpNow: "Firstly, there is NOTHING more bizarre and delusional than your utterly insane Alinsky-ite characterization that myself and DiogenesLamp are, 'Marxists/Democrat/Alinksyite posers consumed with Liberal angst.' "

Of course you are -- Alinskyite in your practice of putting insult before reasoned argument, after all: why bother to answer a point rationally when insults are much quicker and sometimes more effective.
Marxist in your use of Marxist terms like "bourgeois" and insane railing against "the rich" or "New England Power Elites", "Robber Barons", etc.

HangUpNow: "Secondly, *my* understanding of the newly revealed 'history' is the truth as opposed to the traditionally-indoctrinated/fabricated myths, 'Da North fought ovah slavery' meme; 'Lincoln saved da Union.'; 'Da South started a YUGE war at Charleston.' "

Well, aside from your fake illiterate language, those are all historically, factually true.
Of course, real history is vastly more complicated than simple grade-school teachings, but those teachings are still true, regardless of underlying complexities.

HangUpNow: "You can keep on failing to answer the devastating detailed rebuttals and dynamics forged by DiogenesLamp, Rustbucket, and PeaRidge;
You can keep on ignoring the simple principle of the righteous, rightful, and legal personal and State sovereignty issue of the Confederacy..."

But I've "ignored" nothing, have addressed and destroyed each and every argument you & they raised, at great length & detail.
The fact that you personally loathe & despise the truth doesn't make it any less true.

As for any possible considerations of any "simple principle" the Confederacy may, or may not, have represented, all that they threw away when they provoked, started and formally declared war on the United States.
At that point their fate was sealed, unconditional surrender, and any conceivable consideration of "principles" ended.

Sorry about that.

HangUpNow: "You and your cohorts have failed to make you case that a coercive blitzkrieg by Lincoln and his cabal of profiteering pirates and vampires that wound up killing 700,000 Americans, maimed hundreds of thousands more, and scorched earth policy upon the South was justifiable, legal, moral, or necessary. PERIOD."

Of course we have, in great detail, over and over again.
But you good folks loathe & despise the truth so much you'd refuse to see it even if it were slapping you in your faces.
Which it is.

716 posted on 07/20/2016 1:06:21 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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