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To: HangUpNow
Lincoln maneuvered the South into technically firing the first shot of a war he knew he needed that was essential in the Northern public eye and gain support that in NO way supported a CW; But manipulating opinion was the function of many of the newspapers at the time -- same as today.

Aah, the "Linkum tricked us poor, stupid yokels!" defense.

Y'all are beyond pathetic.

364 posted on 06/30/2016 10:17:41 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
Nice rebuttal.

What else should I expect from the same dumbazz "Republican-are-working-for-us!" hallucinations that's gotten us where we are today. Thanks for Poppy Bush, Dole, McCain, Romney, Boehner, McConnell, and now, and Ryan.

Betcha you still have your Dubya poster still adorning your wall -- you know -- the one of "The Adults In Charge."

365 posted on 06/30/2016 10:24:59 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: rockrr

Lol — Lincoln and his “history” scribes bamboozled YOU. Geez — there’s NO excuse for anyone with a computer to still buy ANY fraudulent version of history. And they call Dems bots??


366 posted on 06/30/2016 10:28:05 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: rockrr
Aah, the "Linkum tricked us poor, stupid yokels!" defense.

He didn't trick the Confederates. They knew he had loaded up ships with soldiers to reinforce the Fort. Had they allowed it to continue, they would have had an even more entrenched union presence in a fortress that commanded the approach to the harbor.

If they had decided to fight this reinforcement, the guns of the fort would have been trained on them. The only rational thing to do militarily was to prevent those guns commanding the high ground from aiding in the landing of those troops.

Lincoln had put them in a D@mned if you do, D@mned if you don't situation, but he didn't "trick" them.

He tricked the Northern public. That's who got tricked.

370 posted on 06/30/2016 10:59:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rockrr; x; rustbucket; PeaRidge; HangUpNow; DiogenesLamp
Dear FRiends,
Thanks so much to all for this wonderful conversation, I hugely enjoy it and appreciate the opportunity to defend my country (USA) and the political party (Republicans) that I believe are its backbone.

Now my time for today is over, must move on to other things.
Will try to return this weekend, if possible.

You guys are great, thanks again for amazing discussions!

Yours truly,
BroJoeK

451 posted on 07/07/2016 11:06:39 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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