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To: BroJoeK
Joe, I never said purge the history books of anything. I want the unvarnished truth about what the South did and what it intended to do and the Civil War was VERY MUCH about slavery. We don't venerate German generals. There are Fts. Meade, Kearney, and McCllean. Nathan Bedford Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of the worlds first hate group that terrorized blacks, whites(including Catholics, of which I am one) and Jews. To put it succinctly F**k Nathan Bedford Forrest and the horse he rode in on.
1,691 posted on 11/08/2016 11:48:11 AM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa; central_va
jmacusa: "I want the unvarnished truth about what the South did and what it intended to do and the Civil War was VERY MUCH about slavery."

Of course, and Forrest was a slave-trader before the war.

jmacusa: "We don't venerate German generals."

Of course, but among students of the period several are recognized as outstanding military officers who made the best of impossible situations.
One in particular was in recent years honored in Iraq by naming a coalition operation after him: Desert Fox.

jmacusa: "Nathan Bedford Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of the worlds first hate group..."

I think a more careful study will show that Forrest resigned when he learned it was being used as such.

jmacusa: "To put it succinctly F**k Nathan Bedford Forrest and the horse he rode in on."

My great grandfather's unit did better than that.
They defeated and wounded Forrest in battle (Tupelo), to my knowledge the only Union unit to do that.

Bottom line is that Forrest was certainly a complicated leader who inspired great loyalty among his troops and respect among his enemies.
As I said before, he was innovative and cunning and by the end of his life made peace with former enemies and former slaves.
I bear him no posthumous animosity.

1,696 posted on 11/10/2016 12:49:19 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: jmacusa; BroJoeK
jmacusa: "To put it succinctly F**k Nathan Bedford Forrest and the horse he rode in on."

As an aside, I can guarantee you that the horse he rode in on was not the same horse he rode out on. He had had 29 horses shot from under him, and killed or seriously wounded at least thirty enemy soldiers in hand-to-hand combat. And as Shelby Foote put it, "I guess you could say he came out once horse ahead".

1,726 posted on 11/18/2016 9:04:55 PM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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