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To: BroJoeK; PeaRidge
No, you know perfectly well that Jefferson Davis started war at Fort Sumter

I am not going to entertain consideration of your silly rant.

The war started when the North Eastern power blocks realized how much money they would lose if the South became independent. Sumter was just an excuse for starting the war they needed. If they hadn't started it at Sumter, it was guaranteed that it would have started at Pickens when that armed force landed to reinforce it.

I had disguised the ship, so that she deceived those who had known her, and was standing in (unnoticed), when the Wyandotte commenced making signals, which I did not answer, but stood on.

The steamer then put herself in my way and Captain Meigs, who was aboard, hailed me and I stopped.

In twenty minutes more I should have been inside (Pensacola harbor) or sunk.

Signed: D.D. Porter

Lincoln was going to have the war his wealthy masters demanded one way or the other.

1,566 posted on 10/21/2016 1:53:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp: "I am not going to entertain consideration of your silly rant any facts which contradict my insane fantasies."

I know, those pesky typos pop up from time to time. No problem.

DiogenesLamp: "If they Confederates hadn't started it at Sumter, it was guaranteed that it would have started at Pickens when that armed force landed to reinforce it."

In fact, Confederates had already planned to attack Fort Pickens, despite Union ships maintaining the "truce agreement" reached.
But when Davis ordered war to begin on April 12, Union forces were no longer bound by such "agreements" and landed reinforcements at Fort Pickens.

So Confederates never seriously attacked it until October 9.
That attack failed and in May, 1862 Confederates withdrew the 10,000 troops they used to surround Fort Pickens, for other duties.

So, yes, it's conceivable that Jefferson Davis would have started Civil War at Fort Pickens, but if so, it would have been a far less successful beginning than was the bombardment and surrender of Fort Sumter.

Point is: when Davis decided to start war, Sumter was the place to do it.
Fort Pickens would have been a poor second choice.

DiogenesLamp: "Lincoln Jefferson Davis was going to have the war his wealthy masters slavocrats demanded one way or the other."

No problem, you're welcome, FRiend.

1,569 posted on 10/22/2016 5:29:12 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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