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To: DiogenesLamp
How are the regions defined? I presume "West" meant California, Washington, etc? Or was it referring to the near West?

I assume "East" meant the North Eastern coastal areas.

The map shown by first link in my post 1536 might define the Southern states, but I'm not sure what the various books of economic data mean by the term. I suspect the term, the West, may refer to the Midwest. As you pointed out above, gold and silver were largely the products of California and Nevada. They aren't credited to the West in the first link I provided in post 1530. That source credits gold and silver to the East.

The East didn't produce enough products to purchase what they imported so that region had to pay cash to buy imports. The cash probably came from items they sold the West and the South at tariff-inflated prices. One could argue that the East had a trade deficit they made up for with cash taken from the rest of the country by means of the protective tariff.

1,546 posted on 10/20/2016 3:31:31 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
The map shown by first link in my post 1536 might define the Southern states, but I'm not sure what the various books of economic data mean by the term. I suspect the term, the West, may refer to the Midwest.

What makes it unclear are these categories "Oil, spermaceti -- Oil, whale and other fish Whalebone". You aren't going to get that from the Midwest.

As you pointed out above, gold and silver were largely the products of California and Nevada. They aren't credited to the West in the first link I provided in post 1530.

I don't think gold and silver should be counted in the analysis in which I am interested because they did not rely on Southern production and therefore would not have been affected by the South becoming an independent nation.

Only those economic factors affected by Southern independence should be cited as causing economic damage to the North, and especially economic damage to New York, because that is where I think the "Shadow Government" mentioned in the FBI investigation of Hillary, was centered at that time.

Yes, i'm noticing uncanny parallels between then and now.

That source credits gold and silver to the East.

Were there any significant gold and silver mines in the East?

The East didn't produce enough products to purchase what they imported so that region had to pay cash to buy imports. The cash probably came from items they sold the West and the South at tariff-inflated prices. One could argue that the East had a trade deficit they made up for with cash taken from the rest of the country by means of the protective tariff.

And this is no small point. That protectionism by government policy affected domestic purchases too. It basically resulted in a concentration of wealth and power in the region being "protected." As you mentioned, they could sell products at inflated prices to the detriment of others who had to pay them.

Southern independence upset that applecart too. With the South no longer constrained by the protectionist policies of the North, they would have been eventually able to supply the products which were previously coming from Northern businesses. Because the prices would have been lower, the shift of business to the South would be virtually guaranteed.

They could have supplied goods and services to the Midwest and territories, and eventually brought them into their orbit. Both Economic and Political power would have shifted to the South at the expense of the North.

Very frightening prospect if you are the chief beneficiary of the protectionist policies.

1,554 posted on 10/21/2016 6:47:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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