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To: rustbucket; jmacusa
rustbucket quoting Harrisburg newspaper: "Pennsylvania may thus comprehend the fearful retribution she has brought upon herself by neglecting the cause of the Union when assailed by its enemies, to clutch at the unreal, unsubstantial good of a protective tariff.
She has purchased a worthless tariff at the expense of the Union."

A pretty effective piece of anti-Republican propaganda, I'd say, which could well have been written by Pennsylvania's Doughface-in-Chief, former Democrat President Buchanan.
Of course it's all lies, just as is most of what spews out of Democrats.

The real truth is:

  1. "Republican policies" did not "destroy the Union" because there were no Republican policies in effect when Deep South Fire Eaters began declaring their secessions.
    So it wasn't "policies" but Deep South fears of what "Black Republicans" might do sometime in the future which drove Fire Eaters to declare secession at pleasure.

  2. No, the "the tariff is as worthless... as the paper upon which it is written" -- NOT!.
    In fact the new Morrill Tariff soon doubled Federal receipts, and provided protections for US industry to pay its workers more than any others in the world.

  3. No, "Entering Southern ports at one-half the rate they would be compelled to pay at the North, it will be impossible to prevent their spread over the country.
    The government would find it a huge undertaking to guard the line separating the Confederate States from the Union..."
    -- NOT!
    In fact that turned out to be the smallest of Union problems in the coming years.

  4. No "It would be equally difficult to prevent the entry of vessels into Southern ports by a rigorous blockade;" -- NOT!
    Of course it did take some months to build an effective blockade, but that would not have been necessary had the Confederacy not started war.

  5. "This conflict between the two tariffs must result in diminishing the revenue of our government, and in subjecting manufacturers to a flood of foreign competition, in comparison with which the old tariff, in a compact Union, was as nothing."

    All written like true Democrats, ever eager to blame Republicans for their own malfeasance.
    In fact, by their own words the Morrill Tariff proposal had nothing to do with Fire Eaters' declarations of secession.
    What caused them to secede at pleasure was simple fear of what anti-slavery "Black Republicans" might somehow do in the future to threaten their "peculiar institution."


1,452 posted on 10/12/2016 2:24:35 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Of course it's all lies ...

Is that you, Hillary? Sound like it is.

We've discussed these subjects before. I've discussed with you the Republican intent to destroy slavery, the basis of the Southern economy. Remember that the majority of Republicans in the House endorsed Helper's Book that said they were going to destroy slavery, so help them God, or words to that effect? I've also posted about the decreasing US tariff revenue during the war when expressed in constant 1860 dollars -- even though the northern tariff rate kept increasing.

In our earlier discussions you could not seem to understand that the Morrill Tariff imposed a higher tariff rate on imported manufactured goods than on most other imported goods, such as raw materials. You kept wanting to apply the average tariff rate under the Morrill Tariff to manufactured goods rather than the higher rates that the Morrill Tariff actually imposed on imported manufactured goods.

At that point, I despaired of ever getting through to you. Or, if it was just an unyielding position you were insisting on in a debate, I didn't want to waste my time arguing with you over such obvious matters. The Morrill Tariff imposed higher than average tariff rates on imported manufactured goods in order to protect (and enrich) US manufacturers, in other words, the manufacturers who were supporting the Northern politicians and urging that they increase the tariff rates.

In fact the new Morrill Tariff soon doubled Federal receipts, and provided protections for US industry to pay its workers more than any others in the world.

As I said above, in constant 1860 dollars, tariff revenue decreased during the war. Wartime iflation and the Morrill Tariff actually reduced real tariff revenue to well below what it had been in 1860. Runaway inflation hit the South very hard. They were deprived of tariff revenue by the Northern blockade.

The book, "Tariffs, Blockades, and Inflation" by Mark Thornton and Rovert B. Ekelund, Jr. page 71, citing Atack and Passell's earlier work, reported that Northern worker wages in constant 1860 dollars declined all during the war. I don't know whether that the US worker still remained the highest paid in the world during the war. It could be that they still were, but the average worker no doubt felt the decline in what their wages could buy due to inflation.

Here is an unexpected item I found in the Lancaster Intelligencer (Pennsylvania), March 26, 1861:

PROTECTION

The Morrill tariff act, passed by the late Republican Congress under the spur of protection to domestic manufactures, and the promise of better times for the laboring man, goes into operation on the first of April next. As an earnest of the great and glorious benefits that tariff promises, we notice that the Phoenix Iron Company, doing business at Phoenixville, and one of the largest iron manufactories in the United States, have given notice to their employees, numbering from 1,200 to 1,500 men, that their wages would be reduced from ten to twenty five per cent., on the day the tariff goes into effect.

One possible reason for decreasing the worker pay was that Phoenix's exports to the South were going to have to pay the Confederate tariff.

Sorry, BJK, but I think I will go back to just ignoring your posts.

1,461 posted on 10/12/2016 7:55:08 PM PDT by rustbucket
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